Poll: Will there be protests in the US soon?
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View poll results: Will there be protests in the US soon?
Yes, any time now.
4 5%
Yes, at some point in the next few years.
18 24%
No. Things aren't bad enough to protest.
22 29%
No. Americans don't like to protest.
15 20%
No. Americans are too scared to protest.
17 22%
Voters: 76.
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#1
Turkey, Brazil, Bulgaria this year. Spain, Greece last year. Arab Spring before that. London chav riots.

Meanwhile Americans are being spied on. Everyone complains, but generally don't seem to give off the message that they really care.

Kids are going to university and coming out with debt with little chance of acquiring wealth. Meanwhile, the rich get richer. Middle class is being eroded.

Health care, well, I won't even go there. It's been discussed here to death.

Debt is off the roof.

Wealth distribution is pretty uneven.

Jay-Z's new album is really average.

Unemployment is high.

I somehow get the feeling the Americans always try to push the blame on Obama, or the republicans, or the democrats, or this guy, or Lil Wayne. I also think American patriotism makes it seem Unamerican for them to criticize their own country/government. For example, the media portrays the gun law issue, or the gay marriage issue, which Americans seem to have very polarizing beliefs in, and the bigger and more important picture is missed. Steinbeck was also quoted saying that Americans never see themselves as poor, but rather, as temporary embarrassed millionaires, ergo rejecting any socialist ideas which may actually be beneficial for them. In a nutshell, it's difficult to believe you need to change when everyone tells you you're the best. But regardless, I don't wanna turn this into a gun law or gay marriage thread, but rather their readiness to protest.

Of course, the 99% movement was useless in the long run.

Then again, they said Brazilians are too interested in football/soccer to do anything about their politics. Then they raised the public transportation prices by 10%, one thing lead to another, and everyone lost their shit over there and they've had enough. So why can't it happen in the US?
#2
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#3
let's riot!

(I really just want to loot and get a free fog machine, and maybe a fish tank)
It's over simplified, So what!

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#4
We got it out of our system with the tea party and Occupy Wall Street movements, and now that the economy's improving and the unemployment rate is declining, people are comfortable enough to regain their apathy.
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#6
lol no
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#8
You haven't even heard Jay Z's new album.
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let's riot!

(I really just want to loot and get a free fog machine, and maybe a fish tank)

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We got it out of our system with the tea party and Occupy Wall Street movements, and now that the economy's improving and the unemployment rate is declining, people are comfortable enough to regain their apathy.

I think us Americans are just really apathetic in general...
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Protest that bitches.
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#16
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Of course, the 99% movement was useless in the long run.
I'm not sure. It moved the national conversation towards class dynamics. Also bearing in mind that it was only like a year or so ago that Occupy Wall Street happened. You don't see the full effects of large protest movements until years afterward, so I don't think we can really start to speculate about its effects in the long run.
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Protest that bitches.

Go back to drinking your bad beer, old man.

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#19
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Bah, I see you wimpy "Three Days Grace" and raise you "Fear"


posting fear and your avatar is the dead milkmen??

I like you already
It's over simplified, So what!

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#20
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I'm not sure. It moved the national conversation towards class dynamics. Also bearing in mind that it was only like a year or so ago that Occupy Wall Street happened. You don't see the full effects of large protest movements until years afterward, so I don't think we can really start to speculate about its effects in the long run.


You're absolutely right, but university fees are still high and health care is still a mess.

I think those are ticking time bombs. The former in particular.
#21
Quote by Philip_pepper
Turkey, Brazil, Bulgaria this year. Spain, Greece last year. Arab Spring before that. London chav riots.

Meanwhile Americans are being spied on. Everyone complains, but generally don't seem to give off the message that they really care.

Kids are going to university and coming out with debt with little chance of acquiring wealth. Meanwhile, the rich get richer. Middle class is being eroded.

Health care, well, I won't even go there. It's been discussed here to death.

Debt is off the roof.

Wealth distribution is pretty uneven.

Jay-Z's new album is really average.

Unemployment is high.

The thing is, when anyone protests about any of the things you posted in the OP, they're immediately discredited by the right wing media and their huge following.

"You don't like being spied on? You'd rather have buildings being bombed every day?"

"Kids going to university, and coming out in massive debt with no real chance to get a job? Hah! Shouldn't have majored in basket weaving!"

"Universal health care? You a commie or something?"

"Wealth distribution is uneven and unemployment is high because the poor are lazy."

"Jay-Z has always been pretty average."
#22
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Then again, they said Brazilians are too interested in football/soccer to do anything about their politics.

Who's "they", a bunch of morons?
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#25
when we can't afford gasoline and food prices rise, there will be riots. otherwise, we're too complacent.
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#27
There is a lot worth protesting over but it won't happen due to a combination of the economy starting to improve and typical American apathy (which has nothing to do with Americans being 'lazy', but more to do with being told that we shouldn't do it because we are already 'better' than everyone else and like you said, would be unpatriotic).

That part in parenthesis is mostly just my experience though, there are several factors that play into it.

Edit: Chav riots don't count by the way, if you wanted to give the UK validity you could have at least chosen the anti-austerity riots.
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#28
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But gasoline in the US is dirt cheap compared to other developed nations.


first of all, i didn't say it was expensive. i said when it becomes expensive implying that is something that will happen in the future. which is after the present.

secondly, the reason it is cheap is due at least in part to breaks afforded to oil companies. dat gubment cheese.
#DTWD
#29
Quote by Philip_pepper
Turkey, Brazil, Bulgaria this year. Spain, Greece last year. Arab Spring before that. London chav riots.

Meanwhile Americans are being spied on. Everyone complains, but generally don't seem to give off the message that they really care.

Kids are going to university and coming out with debt with little chance of acquiring wealth. Meanwhile, the rich get richer. Middle class is being eroded.

Health care, well, I won't even go there. It's been discussed here to death.

Debt is off the roof.

Wealth distribution is pretty uneven.

Jay-Z's new album is really average.

Unemployment is high.

I somehow get the feeling the Americans always try to push the blame on Obama, or the republicans, or the democrats, or this guy, or Lil Wayne. I also think American patriotism makes it seem Unamerican for them to criticize their own country/government. For example, the media portrays the gun law issue, or the gay marriage issue, which Americans seem to have very polarizing beliefs in, and the bigger and more important picture is missed. Steinbeck was also quoted saying that Americans never see themselves as poor, but rather, as temporary embarrassed millionaires, ergo rejecting any socialist ideas which may actually be beneficial for them. In a nutshell, it's difficult to believe you need to change when everyone tells you you're the best. But regardless, I don't wanna turn this into a gun law or gay marriage thread, but rather their readiness to protest.

Of course, the 99% movement was useless in the long run.

Then again, they said Brazilians are too interested in football/soccer to do anything about their politics. Then they raised the public transportation prices by 10%, one thing lead to another, and everyone lost their shit over there and they've had enough. So why can't it happen in the US?

@ bolded: wat? How would it be considered "Unamerican" by patriots to protest their government? Do you have the most basic knowledge of what went on in the American revolution?

In reply overall, I hope so. It's seriously time. No matter what side of the aisle you stand on (not that "the aisle" should be a commonly used term, since it's deliberately divisive rhetoric) you should be able to agree that Congress is impotent and the United States' many problems and seemingly inevitable decline cannot be stopped within Washington in it's present state.


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#30
There are a number of protests in America daily, but the vast majority of them are peaceful which doesn't make it especially sexy news stories. If your curious about it ammerican protests look up thepellareport on facebook, Twitter or ustream. He is fairly active on covering protests in the north east, Chicago, and Washington dc.
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#31
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@ bolded: wat? How would it be considered "Unamerican" by patriots to protest their government? Do you have the most basic knowledge of what went on in the American revolution?


There are lots of Americans who legitimately think we sorted everything out then and there is no reason to revolt ever again. The American Revolution was against dumb Brits; a revolt against the American government is treason and displays a lack of faith in our infallible American democracy.

Really though, an example would be this anti-immigration rhetoric I hear all the time. 'We sorted out our problems when we revolted, so these Mexicans are cowards and should just have their own revolution instead of stealing our jobs [even though they have had several revolts, lol]'.

I only bring this up as an example of America's views on protests. It's seen as something everyone else has to do, not America, which kind of goes along with the Steinbeck example earlier, as Americans feel they are part of an equal system and as individuals they just need to 'work harder'; we are all just embarrassed millionaires.

Although one of the above posts brings up a good point. There are protests in America, just not mass protests.
#32
ugh, I hope not. Navigating through the city during that Occupy shit was a nightmare.
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#33
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There are lots of Americans who legitimately think we sorted everything out then and there is no reason to revolt ever again. The American Revolution was against dumb Brits; a revolt against the American government is treason and displays a lack of faith in our infallible American democracy.

Really though, an example would be this anti-immigration rhetoric I hear all the time. 'We sorted out our problems when we revolted, so these Mexicans are cowards and should just have their own revolution instead of stealing our jobs [even though they have had several revolts, lol]'.

I only bring this up as an example of America's views on protests. It's seen as something everyone else has to do, not America, which kind of goes along with the Steinbeck example earlier, as Americans feel they are part of an equal system and as individuals they just need to 'work harder'; we are all just embarrassed millionaires.

Although one of the above posts brings up a good point. There are protests in America, just not mass protests.

That's strange, and, if it's that commonly a held view, sad. Protesting and affecting change in your government externally is probably the most American thing you can do. Fuck this gay Earth.


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#34
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That's strange, and, if it's that commonly a held view, sad. Protesting and affecting change in your government externally is probably the most American thing you can do. Fuck this gay Earth.


Well that's just one view. Obviously not everyone (or even a majority; it's not like I'm experienced enough to know) is like that, but I do feel that is a commonly held view.
#35
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ugh, I hope not. Navigating through the city during that Occupy shit was a nightmare.


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#36
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#37
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There are lots of Americans who legitimately think we sorted everything out then and there is no reason to revolt ever again. The American Revolution was against dumb Brits; a revolt against the American government is treason and displays a lack of faith in our infallible American democracy.
I think a lot of people use that as an excuse. People just really don't want to get up off their asses and demand changes. They keep voting in guys (for the most part) who are essentially rich White guys who are part of the "Old Boys Club" and then expect these guys to work for them. 90% of politicians don't work for the people; they work for themselves. But we keep voting those kind of guys in.
I mean, it's sad. Back in the early 1800s, our national senators and representatives didn't get paid tons of cash and have the best benefit package ever. In fact, a lot of politicians back then probably were losing potential money serving the country. Today, they have one of the best working gigs out there, and many of them either already are wealthy or retire wealthy. I happen to know personally a politician (not very well, but I have talked with her many times) who basically fits that scheme perfectly. She even lied about how many kids she had raised (she temporarily fostered several kids) to make it sound like she was better than she is.
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#38
No because we aren't whiny bitches like Brazil or Egypt

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There are lots of Americans who legitimately think we sorted everything out then and there is no reason to revolt ever again. The American Revolution was against dumb Brits; a revolt against the American government is treason and displays a lack of faith in our infallible American democracy.

Really though, an example would be this anti-immigration rhetoric I hear all the time. 'We sorted out our problems when we revolted, so these Mexicans are cowards and should just have their own revolution instead of stealing our jobs [even though they have had several revolts, lol]'.

I only bring this up as an example of America's views on protests. It's seen as something everyone else has to do, not America, which kind of goes along with the Steinbeck example earlier, as Americans feel they are part of an equal system and as individuals they just need to 'work harder'; we are all just embarrassed millionaires.

Although one of the above posts brings up a good point. There are protests in America, just not mass protests.

There's no way that's even a moderate sized minority. Since you're obvs referring to conservatives, I think you are dead wrong on this one. I know conservatives who are anti-protest, but only because it is a childish whiny way to get things done when there are actual ways to change the system from within. They simply believe that the law is there for a reason, and that the constitution allows for things to be changed legally. Therefore, doing things the whiny "give us what we want!" way that often comes off in Tea Party and Occupy stuff is frowned upon.

But regardless there are plenty of conservatives who are prepared to protest.
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#39
I hope not. Because causing traffic jams, holding up signs, and yelling like frat girls doesn't do jack shit. The government knows we don't like most of what they do. What is holding up a sign going to do? Either grow some balls, get some weaponry and properly revolt, or continue being lazy american cunts and whine when nothing happens even though you did nothing.
#40
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No because we aren't whiny bitches like Brazil or Egypt


There's no way that's even a moderate sized minority. Since you're obvs referring to conservatives, I think you are dead wrong on this one. I know conservatives who are anti-protest, but only because it is a childish whiny way to get things done when there are actual ways to change the system from within. They simply believe that the law is there for a reason, and that the constitution allows for things to be changed legally. Therefore, doing things the whiny "give us what we want!" way that often comes off in Tea Party and Occupy stuff is frowned upon.


To clarify, the comment about the American Revolution was joking. The other two were serious but exaggerated (I thought this was obvious >_> )

With that said, I also want to point out that I am not supportive or protesting alone or 'simply fixing the system from within' alone. I'm not convinced that doing nothing but voting will really do anything when we really are given shit choices, even on a local level. The only way to fix it from within is to become a politician yourself or hope things just magically work out when you fill in your ballot.

With that said, I think there is a time and place for protests, and I am not in favour of just getting signs and screaming and looting and all that. They need to be done only to apply pressure at certain moments to really do anything.

Edit: Oh and I wasn't singling out conservatives by the way.
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