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So I plan on giving my rig a completely new look, with a new amp, effects and im looking for some new pickups

I currently have a Randall RG 75 solid state that really sounds terrible and wouldn't have any distortion im looking for without the Boss MetalCore pedal I put in front of it.

For amps I was thinking of a Blackstar HT Soloist 60 which is somewhere around 800 and I would probably get an Ibanez tube screamer to go with it. I play a lot of Prog metal so if you have any other suggestions around that same price range it would be appreciated!

And for pickups, I was thinking

  • Bare Knuckle Aftermath Alnico Set
  • Bare Knuckel Blackhawk Alnico Set
  • Seymour Duncan Pegasus and Sentient set
  • Dimarzio Crunchlab 7 and Liquifire 7 combo


Which of those should I go for in your opinion and why? I was leaning towards the Pegasus and Sentient or BKP Aftermath set. Or do you have any other suggestions?

Thanks for taking the time to read and possibly answer.

By the way, this is my first forum post!
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Get used mesa mark IV for Prog.
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Amp first, worry about pickups later.

Pickups are an expensive and in reality a very poor-value upgrade, they don't massively change your sound and they're also highly dependent on the rest of your rig. Best thing to do is get the amp first, then when you've had it for a while you'll know what kind of tones you can get out of your rig. If something's not right or lacking then you can look at to pickup swap to tweak things if neeed, just bear in mind that a pickup swap is rarely going to give you as dramatic a change as turning the knobs on your amp or stomping on a pedal.

There's no point being in a rush to spend and potentially waste money, I personally wouldn't even budget for pickups yet and would just put as much money as possible towards the amp - the £150 you'd spend on pickups could be the difference between getting a good amp and a great one.
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Amp first, worry about pickups later.

Pickups are an expensive and in reality a very poor-value upgrade, they don't massively change your sound and they're also highly dependent on the rest of your rig. Best thing to do is get the amp first, then when you've had it for a while you'll know what kind of tones you can get out of your rig. If something's not right or lacking then you can look at to pickup swap to tweak things if neeed, just bear in mind that a pickup swap is rarely going to give you as dramatic a change as turning the knobs on your amp or stomping on a pedal.

There's no point being in a rush to spend and potentially waste money, I personally wouldn't even budget for pickups yet and would just put as much money as possible towards the amp - the £150 you'd spend on pickups could be the difference between getting a good amp and a great one.

+1 to this

Especially in prog nowadays, where the pickups you mentioned seem to be the "standards" for tone because of the praise from the people using them (Periphery, BTBAM, Keith Merrow, Ola Englund, and John Petrucci) you have to know that the pickups they're using aren't the heart of their tone; note that they're all running into multi-thousand dollar rigs of some sort.

What specific bands do you want to have a sound close to?

And I'll drop a mention of the DigiTech Bad Monkey for an OD because having control over bass frequencies in a TS-type pedal is very nice, and they run for cheap.

EDIT: Oh, and what's your guitar?
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Amp first, worry about pickups later.

Pickups are an expensive and in reality a very poor-value upgrade, they don't massively change your sound and they're also highly dependent on the rest of your rig. Best thing to do is get the amp first, then when you've had it for a while you'll know what kind of tones you can get out of your rig. If something's not right or lacking then you can look at to pickup swap to tweak things if neeed, just bear in mind that a pickup swap is rarely going to give you as dramatic a change as turning the knobs on your amp or stomping on a pedal.

There's no point being in a rush to spend and potentially waste money, I personally wouldn't even budget for pickups yet and would just put as much money as possible towards the amp - the £150 you'd spend on pickups could be the difference between getting a good amp and a great one.


+1

now, of course, once you have that good amp it might become apparent that you need new pickups. but i wouldn't skimp on the amp to get pickups, and also you'll have a hard time knowing what you want the pickups to do before you have the amp.
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I suggest getting a more flexible amp (in terms of tonal options), like a JSX or TSL, over the soloist 60. They're generally cheaper used ($500-$700, most of the time with the footswitch) and give you more options.
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+1 to this

Especially in prog nowadays, where the pickups you mentioned seem to be the "standards" for tone because of the praise from the people using them (Periphery, BTBAM, Keith Merrow, Ola Englund, and John Petrucci) you have to know that the pickups they're using aren't the heart of their tone; note that they're all running into multi-thousand dollar rigs of some sort.

What specific bands do you want to have a sound close to?

And I'll drop a mention of the DigiTech Bad Monkey for an OD because having control over bass frequencies in a TS-type pedal is very nice, and they run for cheap.

EDIT: Oh, and what's your guitar?

My guitars are a Jackson JS23 or some model like that an I have and ESP/LTD EC-1000
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http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/msg/3879895907.html Traynor YCV50B - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/msg/3903381777.html Carvin Legacy - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/msg/3887999207.html JSX - will do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3890215338.html 333x - will do prog/might catch fire
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3880814079.html Kustom Defender 50 - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3823698723.html 5150 - probably do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/yrk/msg/3870468516.html 5150 - ditto
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3870405262.html XXX - will do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3866079538.html Rivera R55 - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/yrk/msg/3864394677.html H&K Switchblade - will do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3849413691.html DSL 100 - will do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3847434266.html Traynor Ironhorse - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3843325400.html DSL 50 - will do prog


I'd probably see if that XXX is available. I watched it drop from $600 to $500 to $400. That will give you enough for a decent cab and pups too probably but please focus on the amp first.
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http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/msg/3879895907.html Traynor YCV50B - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/msg/3903381777.html Carvin Legacy - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/mss/msg/3887999207.html JSX - will do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3890215338.html 333x - will do prog/might catch fire
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3880814079.html Kustom Defender 50 - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3823698723.html 5150 - probably do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/yrk/msg/3870468516.html 5150 - ditto
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3870405262.html XXX - will do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3866079538.html Rivera R55 - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/yrk/msg/3864394677.html H&K Switchblade - will do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3849413691.html DSL 100 - will do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3847434266.html Traynor Ironhorse - might do prog
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/msg/3843325400.html DSL 50 - will do prog


I'd probably see if that XXX is available. I watched it drop from $600 to $500 to $400. That will give you enough for a decent cab and pups too probably but please focus on the amp first.

Thanks a lot! I'll certainly check these out
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What specific bands' tones do you want to near towards?
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What specific bands' tones do you want to near towards?


Like every other progressive metal guitarist, probably somewhere toward Periphery or Intervals.
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Well, even though there is the "djent" stereotype, the progressive metal label covers a lot of ground. I think the JSX on your Craigslist would be great, and I'd also take a look at the Laney Ironheart series and EVH 5150III series.
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