#1
I have a 1x12" Celestion Seventy 80w

I also have a 1 speaker bass cab with a busted speaker, which I mean to replace with an electric guitar speaker..

I need more volume, one 80w 12" speaker cannot make itself heard with my uh, inspired drummer.

Would It be better to buy a 4x12 cab, or put in a louder speaker in my empty cab?

Maybe I could run both the replaced old cab and the 80w one at the same time for better effect?
#2
Speaker with higher wattage =/= more volume. It's rated for how many watts it can handle from the amplifier. If you're having an issue with volume it's most likely your amp, not your speakers. Technically, having more speakers will push more air and a little bit of a volume increase.

What amp are you using?
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#5
It's not a bad amp, by any means. But there are better options in the price point.

Watts =/= volume either. It's a measure of how much clean headroom you'll be able to achieve. On the dirty channel and cranked up, the amp will be able to keep up with a drummer, but forget about it if you want cleans. You also need a way of projecting your amp, don't stick it on the floor. That's the worse place you could put it. Stick it up on a table or some milk crates so that the amps speaker will project past your ears, not your legs.

Though I'd probably advise on a new amp. Depending on your budget, location and whether or not you buy used, you can have something really nice that will satisfy all your needs.
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#6
I *have* just been keeping it on the floor....Any suggestions for amps? I would like to get a blackstar sometime eventually but I'm losing desire to play recently because of my unsuited-for-me gear. Thanks for the help by the way, even if I kind of figured it out after you asked haha
#7
Well answer the questions I asked and I'll give you some suggestions. It would also help if you told us what sort of sounds you're trying to achieve. Bands you like, genres, etc.
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#8
Here comes the "just another metal head" post then.

I listen to stuff like Killswitch Engage, Slipknot, Amon Amarth, not quite death metal, but heavy stuff that gets close to "core" but not quite. Stone Sour and Five Finger Death Punch. I'm on a small budget right now, ~$400 so I'm thinking of buying a nice distortion pedal and a tuner, maybe my first Wah, then finding a better job and saving until I can get the soon-to-be released Blackstar "metal" series amps. I usually play in C or B, and prefer a very defined low end, seeing as these tunings can sound ugly coming out of a bright-high focused amp. My Digitech "DEATH METAL" sounds like garbage and the built in Tubescreamer is too weak for me.
#9
If you're in America you could find a used Peavey 6505 112.

Don't buy a distortion pedal, it will give you headaches and disappointment. Sell the Tubescreamer amp and cab and buy something that's suited for your needs.
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If you're in America you could find a used Peavey 6505 112.

Don't buy a distortion pedal, it will give you headaches and disappointment. Sell the Tubescreamer amp and cab and buy something that's suited for your needs.


+311

6505+ is perfect for that stuff.

Ibanez Tubescreamer is TERRIBLE for that stuff.

Used 6505+ 112: http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-PEAVEY-6505-PLUS-1X12-60W-GTR-COMBO-109172148-i3197577.gc

Call and ask if there's anything wrong with it, etc..
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#11
I agree get rid of the TSA15 and get an amp more suited to what you play.

Is the $400 including what you think you can get for your amp?

The 6505+ is a great choice, but there are quite a few amps in that price used that are also worth a look.
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#12
^ +1

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#13
Read all the comments and thanks a bunch, I checked out the 6505 reg/+ and they seem pretty tuned for me. Haha TUNED, get it? Alright...Anyway i didn't have money for them, checked out the used as well, and many reviews says it comes with this awesome constant buzz that I'd really dislike. So I refurbished that old Kustom cab, put a 15" in there, so from here I'm going to get a job and save up for both a Blackstar Metal Series, that is soon to be released. The 6505 seems awesome, and I may reconsider once I have the cash for the Blackstar.
#14
Cough Vypyr Tube cough

All (disclaimer: some-most) of the tone, none of the buzz/hiss/fizz.
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6505 of some type.
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#16
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Read all the comments and thanks a bunch, I checked out the 6505 reg/+ and they seem pretty tuned for me. Haha TUNED, get it? Alright...Anyway i didn't have money for them, checked out the used as well, and many reviews says it comes with this awesome constant buzz that I'd really dislike. So I refurbished that old Kustom cab, put a 15" in there, so from here I'm going to get a job and save up for both a Blackstar Metal Series, that is soon to be released. The 6505 seems awesome, and I may reconsider once I have the cash for the Blackstar.


That buzz/hiss can be fixed with a noise gate which you need anyway. I can have mine set to paint-peeling levels and then mute the strings and you can hear a pin drop. Also, that buzz/his is only heard on the lead channel for the most part, my clean channel is pretty silent even without a noise gate.

But it might be worth waiting to check out a Blackstar Metal Series amp. I remain skeptical, however.
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#17
we are not addressing the issue here. to answer your question, you need you run both cabs and in the empy cab put a speaker with a very high SPL (sensitivity) level. NOT WATTS.

speaker watts are not speaker volume. speaker sensitivity IS speaker volume. it means for every 1 wayy of power it sees, it gives out X decibels. for every doubling of power, you get about 3 more decibels.

so, a 98 SPL speaker (pretty much the norm) and a 103 SPL speaker

1 watt = 98 DB vs 103 DB
2 watt = 101 vs 106
4 watt = 104 vs 110
8 watt = 107 vs 113
16 watt = 110 vs 116

not to mention, for every doubling in speaker cone area (number of speakers) people say there is a percieved 3 decibel increase in volume.

what i am saying is here, such a difference is dramatic. 3 or more decibels is quite significant as is a 2x12 setup over a 1x12.
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