#3
If that was published on the 3rd then why I haven't heard it anywhere else? This is the biggest news in quite a while and only Huffington are reporting it? Skeptical.
#4
What really? Lemme see!

*stem cells*

Oh.

EDIT: Wait, people have already been "cured" in France? Why is this not widespread news?
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#5
This is old as hell. The story in the OP was on r/science last week. However, it's even older than that: Berlin Patient.
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#7
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If that was published on the 3rd then why I haven't heard it anywhere else? This is the biggest news in quite a while and only Huffington are reporting it? Skeptical.

This.


There've been people who've been cured of the disease before. Unless this works every time, it's not a sure thing.
#8
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If that was published on the 3rd then why I haven't heard it anywhere else? This is the biggest news in quite a while and only Huffington are reporting it? Skeptical.

I heard about it last week. Maybe porn sites just don't carry the news.
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#9
Well if they weren't gay to start with..
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HIV cures have already been prevalent in several countries state the pharmaceutical companies (JNJ) in the United States. "We've been monetoring the idea of "cures" for certain "incurable" diseases and we haven't been able to financially back a suitable candidate for our growing profit says, Audo Imm oonin of the Tolerant Base Control Corp. Audo also went on to say "We haven't had much luck finding someone who can really sell the product. We're looking to sell portable kits similar to the new HIV/AIDS kit that determines whether or not you harbor the disease." Audo was killed in a car bomb in Zimbabwe 3 days later.


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#14
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This is like the fifth person this year that's been cured of it.


Yeah, this fad is getting old already. C'mon people.
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The Almighty God wouldn't cure them of HIV cuz HIV is a gay disease and god hates fags u kno
#16
I'm not sure if this was mentioned in any of the articles, but this will never be a cure for HIV. Why not? Short and simple: because it's dangerous.

Why this can potentially cure a patient of HIV and leukaemia is because, to cure leukaemia you put a donor's bone marrow into the patient with leukaemia. Some people have a natural resistance to HIV (mutated CCR5 proteins that HIV uses in infection) so putting their bone marrow in will give the patient a resistance to the HIV virus. That's the basics of how this cure works.

However, since you are putting foreign tissue into the patient, you need to give the patient drugs to inhibit the immune system, so the foreign tissue wont be attacked by the patient's immune system. Inhibiting the immune system isn't a good idea when the person is infected with the HIV virus.

So, in short, if you want to risk dying right then and there, then this might cure you. However, about the 10% of people die from leukaemia treatments, and having HIV will only increase these odds. However, if you come down with leukaemia then this might cure you of HIV as well as leukaemia.

It will never be approved as a cure for HIV.
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#17
That's great....

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#18
People have been being "cured" for a while under special circumstances.

I remember the first time one of these "AIDS cured!" things happened was when a woman who had both cancer and AIDS went in for a bone marrow transplant. The marrow just so happened to be from a donor who was HIV-immune (complete coincidence), so after the transplant her white blood cell production became HIV-immune, so her T-cell count rose until she didn't have a trace of AIDS in her body.
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I'm not sure if this was mentioned in any of the articles, but this will never be a cure for HIV. Why not? Short and simple: because it's dangerous.

Why this can potentially cure a patient of HIV and leukaemia is because, to cure leukaemia you put a donor's bone marrow into the patient with leukaemia. Some people have a natural resistance to HIV (mutated CCR5 proteins that HIV uses in infection) so putting their bone marrow in will give the patient a resistance to the HIV virus. That's the basics of how this cure works.

However, since you are putting foreign tissue into the patient, you need to give the patient drugs to inhibit the immune system, so the foreign tissue wont be attacked by the patient's immune system. Inhibiting the immune system isn't a good idea when the person is infected with the HIV virus.

So, in short, if you want to risk dying right then and there, then this might cure you. However, about the 10% of people die from leukaemia treatments, and having HIV will only increase these odds. However, if you come down with leukaemia then this might cure you of HIV as well as leukaemia.

It will never be approved as a cure for HIV.


In the same way getting a liver transplant isn't a cure of cirrhosis...


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#21
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In the same way getting a liver transplant isn't a cure of cirrhosis...

That's a strawman argument. HIV is a little more complex.


The pit is the only place in the world where 'Two men cured of AIDs' is met with 'Yeah, I could have cured them' or 'Old news, who cares?' or 'So what? They'll die eventually'.

It is old news. Look up the Berlin Patient.

I was just trying to share my knowledge with the people of the pit. It's not often that discussions arise in this area so I thought I could contribute a little. I'm sorry that I came off like an ostentatious prick.
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If that was published on the 3rd then why I haven't heard it anywhere else? This is the biggest news in quite a while and only Huffington are reporting it? Skeptical.


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#24
If you don't do gay guys or black girls then you won't get AIDS

Simple as that, this is meaningless news
#25
I already heard of this...but I doubt you'll transplant bone marrow to infected people willy nilly, it seems very very dangerous.

Hopefully they can make that process safer. It seems like a nice way to go forward, at worst you can still CURE SOME PEOPLE of it (although others may die).


Why are some people immune to HIV? Can't they try to simulate that immunity somehow? With medication, injections, etc?
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They seriously need to put way more money into stem cell research. Screw stealth fighters.
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The pit is the only place in the world where 'Two men cured of AIDs' is met with 'Yeah, I could have cured them' or 'Old news, who cares?' or 'So what? They'll die eventually'.


Honestly it is old news. This stuff has been out and about since June last year. There are multiple other 'cures' as well. Bone marrow transplant, stem cells, having cancer, having various blood immunities, having the right genetics. This stuff have been around a while. People just get excited cause each time a new one comes out, they had not heard of the previous one.

An additional treatment vector for HIV is by no means a bad thing, it just isn't that far-fetch anymore.
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