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Alex_lhp
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I'm still looking for my new monster and I can't decide!
I'm searching for a 6(or 7) stringed guitar suited for metal, but of course it have to play any other "standard"genre good aswell, as blues, rock, classical etc etc.

I moslty lead and shred a whole lot so a thin neck is a must. To put a perspective to what I think as OK. I can tell you that im playing all fine with my ESP LTD EC-401 right now(it's using the ESP "U" neck).

I don't want any EMG's(not 100% percent sure yet but almost) and I want it to have sometging else than black/white finish.

It got to have Floyd Rose(or similar) and 24 frets(at least :P)

I've currently been checking Ibanez S5470's out, however their sustain problems are really scaring me off to buy one.

And by the way, I can only order the guitar through my local store (otherwise I would go down to my local guitar stores and try the instruments out instead) because my local stores only have cheap Ibanez, gibson, gibson, gibson, fender and fender guitars -__-

Therefore I am relying on you guys on my purchase!(I can still trade my guitar in before 15 days after purchase to another intrument so I am almost relying on you completely)

I live in Sweden btw.

Anyways, except the S5470:s I've been checking the ESP Horizon FR-II(which it's leaning towards right now), the ESP Horizon III and the ESP Forest GT.
All the Ibanez RG's are so freaking boring to the eye and therefore it's not an attractive option to me either.

Any other tips or recommendations from you guys?
I've been thinking about the Carvin ct624, but it doesn't have a tremolo bar so it's a no, otherwise that would be my choice.

The only con as it seems with the ESP Horizon FR-II is the 3-piece neck, which I am scared of to warp. My current guitar has warped/bent so many times I've lost counting to how many times I've reset the rod in the neck, I think I know why the guitar got so sensative(touring during winter -> high humidity in case, dry on stage) but since I am putting this much money into this guitar I wanna be absolutly sure that no fretbuzz and neck deforming occurs!

Yep, that's about it :P
Thanks!
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Suhr Modern Pro

Motivation? Experience with the guitar?
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I have one.

Has all the features you want and I honestly think they are the best guitars out there
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Alex_lhp
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I have one.

Has all the features you want and I honestly think they are the best guitars out there

OK!
I don't think they're available here in Sweden though, even through ordering, however I can always order one on my own.

Bring more suggestions!
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Look on guitarguitars website.

They are UK based, great guys and very helpful.

Check the 'premier' section. Great pictures and let you see the exact guitar you would get if you bought it.
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I would buy a J-custom. Older ones can be had for sub-2k easily.

I have owned/own tons of high end stuff and the J-customs are probably my all-time favorite production guitars. They are comparable to EBMM quality-wise.

Also, i feel like landing a suhr pro for under 2.5k in Sweden would be kind of hard after taxes/shipping/currency conversion fees/etc...

I couldnt even get a suhr pro for under 2k here in Candada and ended up buying full blown hollow carve top for a lot more.

Maybe look into some Ernie Ball stuff too if that floats your boat.
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Alex_lhp
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I would buy a J-custom. Older ones can be had for sub-2k easily.

I have owned/own tons of high end stuff and the J-customs are probably my all-time favorite production guitars. They are comparable to EBMM quality-wise.

Also, i feel like landing a suhr pro for under 2.5k in Sweden would be kind of hard after taxes/shipping/currency conversion fees/etc...

I couldnt even get a suhr pro for under 2k here in Candada and ended up buying full blown hollow carve top.

UK and Sweden are both EU-countries though so shipment and 5% extra taxes is the only additional cost And I am going for under 2500 so I still think it's an alternative, keep the suggestions coming though!

Any british based stores where they're selling them(ibanez j-customs) you know?
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UK and Sweden are both EU-countries though so shipment and 5% extra taxes is the only additional cost And I am going for under 2500 so I still think it's an alternative, keep the suggestions coming though!

Any british based stores where they're selling them(ibanez j-customs) you know?


Would you be buying new? A new suhr pro is like $2000ish here?

I don't know of any stores selling J-customs but they pop up often enough used. Look into Ernie Ball stuff as well.
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http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?index=0&sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=200940625883

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?index=0&sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=200941075489

Few of Meetursparkles high lights.

I bought my old J Custom off him and Greg1020 buys a lot of gear off him.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Music-Man-John-Petrucci-JP6-Metallic-Silver-Piezo-Bridge-LiquiFire-CrunchLab-/151063657509?pt=Guitar&hash=item232c187c25

Or a tad left wing... EBMM JP6.

Doesn't have a floyd but it has an amazing trem system and again, I can vouch for how awesome these guitars are.
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Too bad concerning the Suhr's, the only ones I liked the look of was at 3000£ :S
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For that kind of cash, you could have nearly any new guitar that you might want. Most "suited for metal" guitars fall under the US$2,500.00 mark. I'd start by looking at the made-to-order guitars from Carvin.
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Have you thought of going custom? You certainly have the budget for it and you would get exactly the guitar you want. I'm sure there are plenty of custom shops around the EU that would be able to get one to you.


I would not buy a 'cheap' custom guitar. Too risky.
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If you're considering a custom guitar, check out Ran Guitars.
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Depending of shipping, you might get a Guerilla guitar for under 2500$.

How expensive are Mayones in Sweden? because I heard they are amazing guitars.
Carvin guitars are amazing, but again, shipping could be a problem.
My experience with Ibanez prestige have always been fantastic
Jackson USA made are great guitars but I dont know if you can get one for under 2500 in Europe
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How expensive are Mayones in Sweden? because I heard they are amazing guitars.


They are indeed, and their basses are even better. But if the prices in Sweden are anything like their prices in the U.S.A., then the TS is probably going to have to double his budget:

http://www.mayonesusa.com/Mayones-RETAIL-Price-List-2013.pdf

Maybe if Mayones had more than one dealer in the United States?
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They are indeed, and their basses are even better. But if the prices in Sweden are anything like their prices in the U.S.A., then the TS is probably going to have to double his budget:

http://www.mayonesusa.com/Mayones-RETAIL-Price-List-2013.pdf

Maybe if Mayones had more than one dealer in the United States?



Mayones are based in Europe, Germany in I remember well, and Germany and Sweden are member of Euro, so it is possible that Mayones are cheaper in Sweden than in USA, it needs to be check because if he can grab a Mayones under 2500$, it might be ONE OF his best options if not the best
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Mayones are based in Polan, do you guys recommend them then?
I could go custom, however, im thinking it will be a bit to less to buy a "good" custom guitar. Sure it'll do fine but then I could save the bother by ordering the guitar and buy it at my local store and get 3 years of service and maintenance on the guitar!

Any specific model of the mayones that you'll say fit my needs?
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Custom starts out less than most people think...at least in the USA.

I have 5 guitars from Jon Kammerer- I don't know if he handles international orders, but he definitely does do sales via the Internet. Still, at least as an example, his standard models start at $1500, his customs start at $1750. His more complex designs, like the Flag and Camouflage guitar lines run between $2500-3500.

http://jonkammerercustoms.com/newsite1_003.htm

Standard features for his standard guitars:

Satin or Gloss finish
24 fret fret board with blind fret slots
Multiple pickup configurations with single coils, humbuckers, or P-90's- you pick it
Case included (mine were all Gators)
Limited lifetime warranty
Your choice of Hard Maple, Soft Flame maple, Walnut, or Cherry for the body
Gold, Chrome, or Black Hardware

A Swedish Flag guitar might scratch that itch for something that looks unusual, and should probably be only $2500.
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Things available outside the EU are completely unintresting because of the harsh rules of the EU when importing items. If I'd buy a guitar for example I'd have to add an additional 25% taxes and 20% in customs duty.
And shipping cost.
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Ouch!

Sucks for you, but thanks for sharing- I'll keep that in mind.
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If you dont mind saving up a bit then get a mayones
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If you dont mind saving up a bit then get a mayones

Yes, I've been checking the Mayones Regius PRO 6, probably with the dirty green finish(can't seem to find any pics though) and it seems like a great axe, now only the probem to find a place to buy it since Mayones isn't available in Sweden. It's not that much of a problem though cause everything ordered whitin the EU works as good as in the US(states in that case).

Anyone who've played it?
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there are dealers in Norway and Finland... Could you buy from there?
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there are dealers in Norway and Finland... Could you buy from there?

Yes I could(not sure about Norway since they're not EU but Finland will do!)!
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Still seems like a pain to get the guitar + I loose 3 years of customer service.

What am I really gaining on a Mayonese compared to a ESP Horizon FR-II?
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A more hipster brand of djent guitar.
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A more hipster brand of djent guitar.

So the quality of the guitar isn't really differing?
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At this sort of money its usually more about preference than better/worse quality.

The best quality guitars I have played at this point have been ESP, Suhr and EBMM.
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At this sort of money its usually more about preference than better/worse quality.

The best quality guitars I have played at this point have been ESP, Suhr and EBMM.

OK. maybe I should just go for the Horizon since I like my LTD EC-401 kind of much and it's so much easier to get here in Sweden, also I'll get 3 years of maintenance on the guitar for free ^^
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Mayones are based in Europe, Germany in I remember well


They are in Europe, but actually, they are in Poland. Poland is also a member of the EU, so there might be a break on the price. However, European taxes are often very high on such luxurious things.
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OK. maybe I should just go for the Horizon since I like my LTD EC-401 kind of much and it's so much easier to get here in Sweden, also I'll get 3 years of maintenance on the guitar for free ^^



Considering that's the guitar you started off by saying you wanted, go for it.

They are awesome, get a proper ESP one though. There should still be plenty around new and don't go for one of the E2s. Although they are the same I don't think they will hold value or be remembered fondly in years to come.

An ESP Standard Series Horizon is a killer guitar and I imagine you would be very very happy with it.
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I have an ESP Horizon, and I will say, it blew me away. There is a lot of talk about there not being much difference between LTD and ESP, but the difference is astonishing, the guitar still amazes me after months of owning it, which I can't say for any other guitar. I would definitely, definitely recommend one, they are incredible.
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