#1
Hey guys. So I just sold my DSL the other day for a better, quieter amp. So what amp should I get that can get me a good classic rock kinda tone under $1,800. Think Black Crowes, Van Halen, or Led Zeppelin. It can be either a head and cab or a combo amp. I'm thinking the egnater renegade head and cab, but I'm sure you guys know better.
#2
Used Splawn Quickrod/Prostock and a good 2x12 cab

if you need lower power the Splawn Streetrod is 22 watts (I think) and comes as a 1x12 combo and a head.

You can also look for a JCM800 2203/2204 or a JMP 2203/2204
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#4
Quote by 667
Egnater Armageddon.

Not for classic rock

TS needs a classic British flavored amp, not a modern American voiced amp
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Used Splawn Quickrod/Prostock and a good 2x12 cab

if you need lower power the Splawn Streetrod is 22 watts (I think) and comes as a 1x12 combo and a head.


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#7
What did you not like about your DSL?

The Classic crunch channel is great for what your describing. Even though I use mine less than the Ultra channel, with a good boost it is my favorite channel on the amp.
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#8
You can get an orange or15 and an avatar 1x12 for around a grand. Its a low watt set up but a killer amp and you'll have a few bucks to spare.
#10
Quote by Robbgnarly
Used Splawn Quickrod/Prostock and a good 2x12 cab

if you need lower power the Splawn Streetrod is 22 watts (I think) and comes as a 1x12 combo and a head.

You can also look for a JCM800 2203/2204 or a JMP 2203/2204

The Splawn is a bit overkill on the gain side for what he wants. Though it would work. A JMP would nail it.
#11
Quote by Robbgnarly
What did you not like about your DSL?

The Classic crunch channel is great for what your describing. Even though I use mine less than the Ultra channel, with a good boost it is my favorite channel on the amp.


Mostly how it would only sound good turned up loud. It's a little too much power for the gigs I play, which is why I'm trying to get an amp with 65 watts or less.
#12
Quote by patriotplayer90
The Splawn is a bit overkill on the gain side for what he wants. Though it would work. A JMP would nail it.

he doesn't have to use gear 3.
#13
perhaps take a look at the carvin legacy 3?

my legacy 1 nailed those tones.
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#14
Quote by guitarguy213
Mostly how it would only sound good turned up loud. It's a little too much power for the gigs I play, which is why I'm trying to get an amp with 65 watts or less.

Well I have a krank 1980Jr which is like a 20 watt Splawn QR and is very Classic rock with out being overbearing in the gain stages.

The Splawn is the best amp I can think of for TS needs it is a truly awesome amp for what you want.
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Quote by patriotplayer90
The Splawn is a bit overkill on the gain side for what he wants. Though it would work. A JMP would nail it.

Splawn shits on most Marshall style amps, period
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Splawn shits on most Marshall style amps, period

Most, if not all. I absolutely agree. But it still isn't a Marshall, which is exactly what all of those bands used. I wouldn't use one exclusively for classic rock, but that is just my personal preference.
#18
I think the Renegade is a great amp for classic rock personally, plus it has awesome cleans. They are very versatile amps.
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#20
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he doesn't have to use gear 3.


They are extremely versatile. You can get some great lower gain tones with gear 1 or 2 and its master volume.

You have to run a bit loud to open it up.

I own a pro mod (now known as qr with kt88s) and a nitro also kt88.
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#21
The Quick Rod can do low gain stuff just fine on Gear 1 or even the Clean channel. It is not a Marshall but it based on the Marshall Plexi and JCM 800 and beats Marshall at their own game as far as current production stuff. There is a shitload of clips on the internet if you want to hear various tones that a Splawn can do. They are also extremely well built and supported with arguably the best customer service in the business. You can also run them at half power (50w) which is how I run mine.

The Splawn will eat the Carvins for breakfast. Admittedly I've never played one though.

I really like the Renegade personally for its versatility but build quality wise they do not hold a candle. You can find Renegades in the $500 - $600 range. You get what you pay for here.

Another amp that I like that I have played is the Traynor YCV50B.

I played the Rivera Venice series as well and the tone if phenomenal but I'm not sure how versatile it would be.

I'm sure there are some other amps I'll think of as soon as I hit 'post quick reply'


Edit ^ Beat me to it

Greg is saying it has a Gear 1 and a Gear 2 and a Clean channel for a reason. He's played my Quick Rod too and we captured some pretty killer clips as well. Clean and mid gain stuff.
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#22
The Renegade is a jack of all trades and certainly not master of one. I owned it for a while but it has so many features which are nice to have but aren't really aren't a big deal. Even with tube blend knob not overly impressive there isnt anything that you would need can be found elsewhere. But it isn't a bad amp. I enjoyed mine overall.
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#23
A used Mark V is a great classic rock amp. It is VERY flexible and can go from sparkling cleans to dirty rock easily.

It isn't really a metal amp. For metal you have to have the gain 3/4 or more depending on the volume.

You can find one for under $1800.


It does not really do "british" sounding stuff, so be aware of that.
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#24
I played a Mark V briefly (15-20 min) and found it extremely versatile but when I think of Crowes, Van Halen, and Zeppelin I just don't think of it as being a go to amp for that. You owned one I think so I'll defer to you R45VT. His needs just scream Marshall tone stack. I guess you are saying the same thing in that doesn't do the 'british stuff' as well. I see.
#25
Thats why I said it doesn't do british. I think an old cranked Marshall is what he is after, I was just throwing another option on the table if he goes out to test any amps near him.

I had a DSL as well. Seems odd it didn't cut it for him but I do understand what he means.
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#26
A Fargen Olde 800 or Mighty Plex are a few options if volume is the issue. The latter would definitely be ideal if you are gigging but don't need all the watts.
#27
Watts does not = volume, many small amps have to be loud to sound good.

^^ Fargen are very nice amps, but aren't they $2000+ amps? I've always thought they were in the price bracket of Freidman, Diezel
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#28
Depends whether you want to spend the entire $1800 or not, if you need a lot of volume, if you want to lug a bunch of shit with you to gigs, if you need reverb, etc.
The cheap way would be a 5150 III mini + cab. For $1800, I got Michael Soldano to build me a 20W 1X12 combo SLO clone. It totally rips ass, & weighs 38 lb. Van Halen tone & Zeppelin tone all day. You can't really go wrong with the Splawn suggestions, but if you're spending $1800, be very precise about what you want & need. There's a lot of cool shit for that kind of money
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#29
Another vote for the 5153 mini w/cab.
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