#1
So I have a problem. I like writing music and I like singing, but lyrics have always been a chore for me. Music is my go-to outlet for all of the shit that happens in my life, but I guess I'm only comfortable with how I express things instrumentally. Lyrics are a different story.

How do you guys do it? Where do you get your inspiration?
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All my lyrics are in the form of villanelles.
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#5
sing about something that is an interesting topic that you would bring up in conversation then talk about it with some rhymes thrown in . or try a storytelling approach and make the lyrics make chronological sense until it builds up to a lesson or something. idk use your imagination
#6
nut up and write something son. then chop it up into meter and sing that shit.



it helps if you get rid of any preconceived notion of what a song should sound like or what a set of lyrics should be based on. just write what u feel and don't worry about rhyming or whatever. it gets easier as you do it more often.
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#7
honestly, just get a little courage and write about something personal and exciting

if lyrics seem like work or a chore, you are not meant to be writing lyrics.
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#8
I don't really write much, but the two lyrically decent things I've written recently were both inspired by dreams I had. So maybe look to your dreams if you can't think of anything to write.
#9
The best lyrics come when you are inspired.

It's hard to write a good set of lyrics cause you need something inspirational/tragic/etc
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#10
I don't know why pop music has such an obsession with original lyrics. Why not go to the experts? You know, master poets who actually knew what they were doing at the highest level....

It's pretty silly that musicians are expected to be wordsmiths. That's like expecting a chef to know how to build kitchens.

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I don't know why pop music has such an obsession with original lyrics. Why not go to the experts? You know, master poets who actually knew what they were doing at the highest level....

It's pretty silly that musicians are expected to be wordsmiths. That's like expecting a chef to know how to build kitchens.

That's what I never got. Singers are expected to also by lyricists when it's not the same thing.
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#13
Do a melody hums and then write lyrics to fit that...
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#15
There are certain bands for me that give me inspiration for lyrics because of how well written and how unique their phrasings are, and I just listen. When I'm just walking around with music fresh in my head a line will just pop out and the rest kind of follows.
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#18
read a book
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#19
I'm no expert and definitely haven't shared my ideas on here, but generally I just write out a piece in free-verse poetry and then add structure/rhyme to the lines afterward.
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#21
I don't. I hate writing lyrics. I know what I don't like about bad lyrics (straight-up in your face with no hint of subtleness), but I just can't be assed to go through all that trouble to write some awesome metaphors.

I'd write instrumentals but I suck at song-writing.

I'd play songs but I suck at playing songs.

Man I really should pick up a new hobby.
#22
Sometimes you get insipiration for lyrics by not trying to get insipration for lyrics.
So just sit around and live your life and something may well start to form in your head.

The other option is to just think of something you are passionate about and write about that.
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#23
don't bother with anything through which you can't easily express emotion. you'll turn into a bad artist. just focus on the instruments and ideas through which your emotions propagate with ease.
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I don't know why pop music has such an obsession with original lyrics. Why not go to the experts? You know, master poets who actually knew what they were doing at the highest level...


Master poets knew what they were doing at the highest level when it came to writing words which stood on their own as poetry. But good poetry doesn't necessarily equate to a good text for setting to music in every conceivable situation. I mean, Shakespeare sonnets and Odes by Keats are all well and good but they don't really scream out 'dancefloor anthem' to me.

I get that you're coming at this from the perspective of being heavily involved in classical music where it's the norm to set a text written by someone else. But even there, the job of a librettist isn't the same as the job of a playwright, and someone who's good at one isn't necessarily good at the other. It's not just a case of 'Good music plus good poetry/text = good overall product', there has to be some level of connection between the two, even if the two aren't written by the same person, the composer setting the text needs some feel for the nuances of poetry, and the poet writing it needs to have some understanding of what works as a text for music and what doesn't.
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#25
I just ramble over the music I'm playing and write down little fragments of things I like. I get a feel for different flows, different speeds, different inflections. I once wrote a whole song around a terrible little line I rambled out just to get a feel of the flow. That line was "I shut my mouth 'cause I hate the taste of flies". Somehow, it worked wonders. That's what I do. Just speak nonsense bullshit or just make up little lines that fit.

Actually, I believe Paul McCartney was known to do something similar. "Yesterday" was originally "Scrambled Eggs". He just sang about his breakfast until he found something better later.
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But good poetry doesn't necessarily equate to a good text for setting to music in every conceivable situation. I mean, Shakespeare sonnets and Odes by Keats are all well and good but they don't really scream out 'dancefloor anthem' to me.
I'm not saying it should be used in every context. I mean, dance floor anthem is kind of a nobrainer. But I mean, for the "deep" stuff.

I get that you're coming at this from the perspective of being heavily involved in classical music where it's the norm to set a text written by someone else. But even there, the job of a librettist isn't the same as the job of a playwright, and someone who's good at one isn't necessarily good at the other.
Not sure where you're going with this... Librettists apply mostly to operas. But tons of songs are set to pre-existing poems. Schubert has hundreds of songs based on those, for example. And the music really matches the words.

It's not just a case of 'Good music plus good poetry/text = good overall product', there has to be some level of connection between the two, even if the two aren't written by the same person, the composer setting the text needs some feel for the nuances of poetry, and the poet writing it needs to have some understanding of what works as a text for music and what doesn't.

Well sure but there's an abundance of poetry out there.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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Possibly one of the greatest music related metaphors I've ever heard. 10/10, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
#28
Ways struggled writing lyrics and when I did write something it always ended up as whiny teenage angst. It's the same with poetry, it takes a concerted effort to wring out something shite. And I don't really get poetry anyway.
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#31
I can write but I have almost no musical ability. I just write what i think and because I think a lot, I write a lot. something good turns up eventually.
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#32
I think the whole thing with lyrics is that you have to be open. If you're afraid to say what you really feel, then you probably won't be too happy with your lyrics.
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