#2
Treat everybody nice.
Most of the important things


in the world have been accomplished


by people who have kept on


trying when there seemed to be no hope at all
#5
let everyone behind me get frontsies for eternity
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#7
If I was going through the gates of Hell, it'd be because I'm dead and am now immaterial. (my physical body being either buried or cremated back on earth)

Being immaterial means that no harm can come to me, I can't feel any pain because I no longer have any pain receptors or even a nervous system. nothing can tough me because being immaterial everything just passes straight through me.

So, if I was going through the gates of Hell I'd going through with the confidence that if I don't like the place I can always turn around and go straight back out through the gates because, being immaterial, nothing could stop me from doing so.
#8
Quote by SlackerBabbath
If I was going through the gates of Hell, it'd be because I'm dead and am now immaterial. (my physical body being either buried or cremated back on earth)

Being immaterial means that no harm can come to me, I can't feel any pain because I no longer have any pain receptors or even a nervous system. nothing can tough me because being immaterial everything just passes straight through me.

So, if I was going through the gates of Hell I'd going through with the confidence that if I don't like the place I can always turn around and go straight back out through the gates because, being immaterial, nothing could stop me from doing so.


i dont know Slacker, i always read/heard that you retained all your senses/feelings/memories when sent to your final judgement(whether that be hell or heaven). i think i remember reading somewhere in the bible that those who are dead shall be judged immediately. it was one of the reasons i didnt believe in ghosts as a child.

Harvedit:

the point being, whether immaterial or not, you are condemned to an eternity there. like prison. thats according to my Sunday school teacher though. i was 7 years old when i learned all this
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#11
Quote by Harvey Swick
i dont know Slacker, i always read/heard that you retained all your senses/feelings/memories when sent to your final judgement(whether that be hell or heaven). i think i remember reading somewhere in the bible that those who are dead shall be judged immediately. it was one of the reasons i didnt believe in ghosts as a child.

Harvedit:

the point being, whether immaterial or not, you are condemned to an eternity there. like prison. thats according to my Sunday school teacher though. i was 7 years old when i learned all this


I don't care what your Sunday school teacher (or the Bible) said, you cannot imprison something that is immaterial. Would you believe her if she said it was possible to plait fog?
#12
Quote by SlackerBabbath
I don't care what your Sunday school teacher (or the Bible) said, you cannot imprison something that is immaterial. Would you believe her if she said it was possible to plait fog?

If we are making the massive jump towards the idea of an eternal hell/heaven, I think it is reasonable to make the considerably smaller jump that you won't make, no?
#14
There's probably a lot a sluts in hell
It's over simplified, So what!

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#16
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There's probably a lot a sluts in hell

hell yeah!
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#18
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If we are making the massive jump towards the idea of an eternal hell/heaven, I think it is reasonable to make the considerably smaller jump that you won't make, no?


If we are making the massive jump towards the idea of an eternal hell/heaven, then I don't see why I can't make the jump that if I existed as an immaterial being I would be free to come and go as I please in Heaven, Hell or on Earth.
#19
Quote by SlackerBabbath
If we are making the massive jump towards the idea of an eternal hell/heaven, then I don't see why I can't make the jump that if I existed as an immaterial being I would be free to come and go as I please in Heaven, Hell or on Earth.

i have never once seen the word "immaterial" in the bible. all im saying , if we are going to hypothetically postulate that we are in a universe where an eternal Haven and hell exists according to Christian beliefs, then we could logically assume that we would be suspended souls in our own particular states of judgement.
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#20
Quote by Harvey Swick
i have never once seen the word "immaterial" in the bible. all im saying , if we are going to hypothetically postulate that we are in a universe where an eternal Haven and hell exists according to Christian beliefs, then we could logically assume that we would be suspended souls in our own particular states of judgement.


Biblical scripture consistently teaches that humans are made of two parts, an immaterial part and a physical part.
When judgment was pronounced upon Adam for sinning against God, it was his body that was judged to go back to its original elements.

"By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return" (Genesis 3:19).

The spirit, however, was not judged to return to dust because it was breathed into Adam by the breath of God. The body became dust but the spirit went elsewhere.

"and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it" (Ecclesiastes 12:7).

You are right that the word 'immaterial' doesn't occur in the Bible in conjunction with the soul or spirit (strictly speaking a ghost is a spirit that wanders the earth) but it does describe the soul or spirit as being like a breath.
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#21
Quote by SlackerBabbath


You are right that the word 'immaterial' doesn't occur in the Bible in conjunction with the soul of spirit (strictly speaking a ghost is a spirit that wanders the earth) but it does describe the soul or spirit as being like a breath.

and isnt the air you breathe made of molecules? i would call that material.
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#22
Quote by Harvey Swick
and isnt the air you breathe made of molecules? i would call that material.


Depends upon the density of the molecules.
All 'things' are made of molecules, even gasses. If something had no molecules, it wouldn't exist, not even as an immaterial thing.
#23
Quote by Harvey Swick
and isnt the air you breathe made of molecules? i would call that material.


You're applying our knowledge to the understanding and writings of those thousands of years ago. While yes, we know that our breath contains molecules, breath was probably the best example they could give, in it being something that you couldn't see and moved unhindered (in their minds).
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#24
Knock? Frantically search for my passport? Hold the Satanic Bible over my head? Start a demonic orgy? Pick one.
#25
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Sadly this is Ultimate-guitar, not Simple-guitar. We can't help you.


#27
Quote by man_suits
This just screams 'religion thread' no?

It actually just screams 'The Hell Thread!' yes?
#30
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It actually just screams 'The Hell Thread!' yes?


I guess it depends on how you look at it?
#31
Quote by man_suits
This just screams 'religion thread' no?


'Religion' is a VERY big and VERY varied subject.
Consider all the different threads here that are something to do with guitars. The forum doesn't just have one thread titled 'Guitars' and insist that anything that has any relevence to guitars from building them to playing them be talked about there, that'd be silly, right? Instead the forum is split into more spcialised threads about the different aspects within the wider field of the subject headed 'guitars'. So likewise, occasionaly someone wants to talk about a particular specialised subject withing the wider field of the subject headed 'religion'.
#32
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WHAT WILL YOU DO IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE GATES OF HELL?

Exit your profile
#33
Quote by SlackerBabbath
'Religion' is a VERY big and VERY varied subject.
Consider all the different threads here that are something to do with guitars. The forum doesn't just have one thread titled 'Guitars' and insist that anything that has any relevence to guitars from building them to playing them be talked about there, that'd be silly, right? Instead the forum is split into more spcialised threads about the different aspects within the wider field of the subject headed 'guitars'. So likewise, occasionaly someone wants to talk about a particular specialised subject withing the wider field of the subject headed 'religion'.


But it's a guitar website though. Seriously not trying to be argumentative.
#35
I'd probably think "Fuck me, looks like hell is real."

And then I'd wonder what I'd done to deserve it.

Maybe try to convince the gatekeeper I accidentally hopped in the wrong line.

"Uhh, I got lost on the way to heaven."

"Actually, I'm meant to be getting out of hell today."

"Look, there's been a bit of a mix up. I'm actually still alive, you see? Be a darling and send me back to earth, would you?"
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