devilmaycrykid
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#1
I'm using an edwards alexi laiho guitar with seymour duncan blackouts and I can't seem to get a good tone out of it. My jackson has the duncan jb/jazz and it sounds awesome. Anyone know how to get a good metal tone out of it? it sounds too dry and a bit too much treble for my taste. my roland cube 20x sounds better.
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#2
Which models are you using?
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#4
Quote by Wolfie60
Not surprised, its Peavey, send it back while you still can !


What?

Did you join to talk shit?

TS- it sounds great with passages but not your guitar with actives? Sometimes you have to re-EQ with different guitars or switch to the middle pickup configuration.

What are your EQ settings ?
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See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
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#5
The obvious suggestions for dry and too much treble would be a slight amount of reverb and to turn the treble down, or the mids up slightly.
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#6
Quote by Wolfie60
Not surprised, its Peavey, send it back while you still can !



Ok, I thought I remembered you from earlier, so I went back and reread your old threads.

You might want to stop posting when you really don't have any reasonable degree of experience regarding the issue at hand.

You owned a Vypyr 30 and didn't like it so all Peavey gear sucks? That's nice.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Quote by devilmaycrykid
I'm using an edwards alexi laiho guitar with seymour duncan blackouts and I can't seem to get a good tone out of it. My jackson has the duncan jb/jazz and it sounds awesome. Anyone know how to get a good metal tone out of it? it sounds too dry and a bit too much treble for my taste. my roland cube 20x sounds better.


http://www.vypyrsettings.fr/
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BlueIceBox
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#7
Personally I think the 6505 model is too 'ballsy' and I don't think you need to use OD/Boost with it. There's more than enough gain on the red channel. In my opinion it makes for a good hard rock tone but no so much for modern metal (the model on the Vypyr that is, not the real amp!)

Try the Triple XXX channel at 12 to 3 oclock (adjust to taste) along with X boost or Tubescreamer with both parameters at around 10 oclock. If you're looking for something more middy try the JSX model.

If you're looking for a darker tone there's two options. The first option makes use of one of the rack effects, so you wont be able to use any of those while you use it. Select the Pitch Shifter and set both parameters at noon. It takes some of the highs out and makes it a little less fizzy. Another way is to hold the second preset button down while powering up. The effect is a little different but it still darkens the tone and you can still use the rack effects.
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#8
^No

No Wolfie60. You can't have it both ways. Go read post #4 again. You offered zero assistance and basically created a flame post. Please do not break the rules. You can't make a post like that and then come back after the fact and act all 'high and mighty' and pretend like you were joking etc. That **** really pisses me off - especially from someone new.

IMO - the models from Marshall, Laney and Blackstar are not as good as the Vypyr 60 in the same price range (for metal. again, imo)

TS is having trouble getting a good metal tone from the Vypyr 60. The Vypyr 60 does metal very well so let's just try to help. devilmaycrykid - I personally like the Diezel and Recto channels for metal. I don't have active pickups though. The reverb can be turned off and don't find the Recto or Diezel models to sound dry at all. I run my EQs pretty flat across 1pm with maybe the Mids up slightly more. I don't run any effects. I usually put the preamp on 1 or 2 pm and the post gain and master volume around 11 am. Good Luck.
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#9
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what do you think the !!!!!!!! means


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#11
Quote by R45VT

TS- it sounds great with passages but not your guitar with actives? Sometimes you have to re-EQ with different guitars or switch to the middle pickup configuration.

What are your EQ settings ?


+1, please answer this.

I've owned 3 Vypyrs, we'll get you sorted.
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devilmaycrykid
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#12
So I use the 6505 amp with no effects. the pre gain is at 12 oclock the lows are max the mids are at about 2 oclock tje treble at 11 oclock and the post gain at 12. that's the best way I could describe it. Would a bugera 6260 infinium be a better amp?
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#13
That's surprising. Out of the box, even the presets are pretty ballin'.

Try adjusting your mids and lows back a touch and increasing the treble. Add a bit of reverb as suggested as well. Are you sure your guitar doesn't need new batteries? You might not have enough power for the actives in it.
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#14
Quote by Eppicurt
That's surprising. Out of the box, even the presets are pretty ballin'.

Try adjusting your mids and lows back a touch and increasing the treble. Add a bit of reverb as suggested as well. Are you sure your guitar doesn't need new batteries? You might not have enough power for the actives in it.


x2. Plus make sure the cable is fully installed. The last few guys on here with concerns like yours came back with pictures and you could see the cable not fully seated.
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See, it's important that people clarify when they say "metal", because I pretty much always assume they are a Cannibal Corpse fanboi.
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#15
Quote by devilmaycrykid
Would a bugera 6260 infinium be a better amp?


It might be an easier way to get a sound you like.

It might present a good opportunity to make smores.


Once again,

Quote by R45VT

TS- it sounds great with passages but not your guitar with actives? Sometimes you have to re-EQ with different guitars or switch to the middle pickup configuration.


Please answer this. We need to try to pinpoint the problem, process of elimination. This is a huge point.
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devilmaycrykid
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#16
Yeah the passives sound great but the actives sound like it has too much gain. I lowered the post and pre gain to get a better sound but then I have to put the volume up which isnt a problem. I'm thinking of trading it for a bugera 6260 infinium I heard it was up there with the 6505 combo.
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Quote by devilmaycrykid
Yeah the passives sound great but the actives sound like it has too much gain. I lowered the post and pre gain to get a better sound but then I have to put the volume up which isnt a problem. I'm thinking of trading it for a bugera 6260 infinium I heard it was up there with the 6505 combo.


This may help you with dialing the amp in: The pregain is the distortoin. The postgain is the patch volume. The volume is the master volume for all patches.
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Ibanez RG520
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devilmaycrykid
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#19
Quote by Offworld92
This may help you with dialing the amp in: The pregain is the distortoin. The postgain is the patch volume. The volume is the master volume for all patches.

Oh wow thanks so much! haha I don't know why I didn't just look up post and pre gain I thought they were both distortion lol.
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#20
Have you tried any of the settings we've recommended?
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devilmaycrykid
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#21
Quote by BlueIceBox
Have you tried any of the settings we've recommended?

Yeah I got it to sound good thanks everyone. I just messed with everything and noticed I had to lower the pre gain with the actives and keep it up with the passives.
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#22
Glad you got it sorted out.
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#23
congrats. one hell of an amp.
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Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
seems like you got it sorted

preamp gain and post gain settings make a big difference

I'd take a Vypyr 60 over the Bugera's any day. FWIW


might as well take a vypyr 60 unless u got a g or so to play with.
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