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#1
I want the opinion of people who know anything about their use. At my university some psychology students were doing some tests but I couldn't see anything in most of those blots. So what's their use? Are people supposed to guess something and the thing that comes in their mind earliest probably demonstrates that their sexual addicts or what? What does it mean if I just see a random blot?
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#2
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I want the opinion of people who know anything about their use. At my university some psychology students were doing some tests but I couldn't see anything in most of those blots. So what's their use? Are people supposed to guess something and the thing that comes in their mind earliest probably demonstrates that their sexual addicts or what? What does it mean if I just see a random blot?

From my understanding it can reveal mental patterns. If I say they look like vaginas every time, or something sexual every time it could show that I see sex in everything.


The patterns are completely random and meaningless. The point is to see if your mind makes its own pattern.
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#3
It's actually a test designed in the wake of the Keene Act of 1977. If you didn't say anything when presented with the blot, you were fine. If you replied to the blot with "OH HEY-HEY!" it was obvious that you knew Rorschach and therefore was also a Watchman.
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From my understanding it can reveal mental patterns. If I say they look like vaginas every time, or something sexual every time it could show that I see sex in everything.


The patterns are completely random and meaningless. The point is to see if your mind makes its own pattern.

What if your mind makes no own patterns? I felt like an idiot for most of the cards for not seeing anything in them.
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#5
Rohrschach tests are a bunch of bullshit. They say nothing about fear, or the person's true face. You can hang up tests on the streets from the tallest buildings to the gutters, and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."
#6
The shapes are general enough that your mind will fill in some blanks and make some assumptions on its own. It reveals subconscious patterns (like bladeslinger said), mental imprinting, and unconscious motivations (very general ones obvs).

But you do have to look at a bunch of them. The whole point is that the shapes are almost always general enough that someone could easily use the inkblot itself to represent almost anything their mind decides.

I agree that it makes sense, that a rorschach test would be able to reveal some of the subject's psyche, and I think there are some cases where the results are valid, but the results are often too general from which to draw well-grounded conjecture.
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What if your mind makes no own patterns? I felt like an idiot for most of the cards for not seeing anything in them.

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#8
In the first lecture of my first year psych class the prof emphasized the importance of critical thinking. This was one of the many things he made a case for being a BS test.
#10
A bunch of pseudoscience non-sense.
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#11
So all of you doubt that a series of inkblots, for which a 6 year old child only sees morbid violence and death, doesn't actually indicate anything about said child?
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what do you guys see?


2 demons (with horns) face to face

EDIT: only the heads are showing though
#14
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what do you guys see?

A mask-like face or a lobster.
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So all of you doubt that a series of inkblots, for which a 6 year old child only sees morbid violence and death, doesn't actually indicate anything about said child?


A child sees morbid violence and death in everything.
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So all of you doubt that a series of inkblots, for which a 6 year old child only sees morbid violence and death, doesn't actually indicate anything about said child?

I think it does. I have just read the book Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman and he states that the brain is divided into two systems. The first system is fast thinking and quickly uses your stereotypical memories to find order in the thing you are seeing. If this is true than ofcourse looking at blots and having certain things come to mind quicker, would mean something... I suppose.
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A child sees morbid violence and death in everything.


What the **** kind of childhood did you have? If you can't say that you're being abused, type out four sentences, with the first sentence starting with H, second with E, third with L, fourth with P.
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So all of you doubt that a series of inkblots, for which a 6 year old child only sees morbid violence and death, doesn't actually indicate anything about said child?


Maybe the child is smart enough to play the psychologist?

Or maybe it isn't a child at all. I've seen The Orphan, and that Warwick Davis fellow.
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what do you guys see?


#20
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2 demons (with horns) face to face

EDIT: only the heads are showing though

No, clearly their erect wangs are touching in the middle, and there's a crab-like thing either in front of or behind them.
#21
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I think it does. I have just read the book Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman and he states that the brain is divided into two systems. The first system is fast thinking and quickly uses your stereotypical memories to find order in the thing you are seeing. If this is true than ofcourse looking at blots and having certain things come to mind quicker, would mean something... I suppose.


Yes. The results are probably usually not usable or useful. But sometimes they can be.
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What the **** kind of childhood did you have? If you can't say that you're being abused, type out four sentences, with the first sentence starting with H, second with E, third with L, fourth with P.

Kids do see violence in a lot of things but it's a certain kind of violence.


A kid seeing a very specific or especially morbid type of violence would be bad.

A kid seeing violence could be perfectly normal. Kids are weird.
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Kids do see violence in a lot of things but it's a certain kind of violence.


A kid seeing a very specific or especially morbid type of violence would be bad.

A kid seeing violence could be perfectly normal. Kids are weird.


Hence why I specified morbidity....
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Yes. The results are probably usually not usable or useful. But sometimes they can be.

The guy got a nobel prize so I can't argue with it.

As usual in the social sciences it doesn't work everytime, unfortunately.
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So all of you doubt that a series of inkblots, for which a 6 year old child only sees morbid violence and death, doesn't actually indicate anything about said child?

That's right. What if the kid was just having a bad day? What if he was lying to sound edgy and cool like so many kids do?

If you have any sense at all then you'll know how to answer these questions to achieve whatever outcome you want.
#28
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Anyway, let's get to the actual point of this thread:



what do you guys see?

pseudo-symmetry
#29
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what do you guys see?


#30
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So all of you doubt that a series of inkblots, for which a 6 year old child only sees morbid violence and death, doesn't actually indicate anything about said child?

They usually aren't consistent enough to be reliable.
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#33
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Anyway, let's get to the actual point of this thread:



what do you guys see?


a queen. with chicken and seahorse attendants. those things at the bottom are seahorse poo.
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#35
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That's right. What if the kid was just having a bad day? What if he was lying to sound edgy and cool like so many kids do?

If you have any sense at all then you'll know how to answer these questions to achieve whatever outcome you want.


I've said numerous times in this thread that the results are usually not usable or useful. But if you're assuming everyone's a lying shit, then that invalidates just about every survey ever done it's not just rorschachs.

The reason the results usually aren't useful is because the test doesn't answer why the subject saw what he/she did. But that can sometimes be obvious, given the individual subject's history and characteristics.

Nobody claims the rorschach test on its own tells you at length the details of one's deepest darkest self. But when used in conjunction with other information, it CAN be helpful.
#36
if i recall correctly, rorschach tests have only been known in "the literature" to show significant nonrandom results when diagnosing schizophrenics, but even then it's part of a larger battery of tests (as most psychological tests, on their own, aren't particularly useful).

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#37
Aren't they used like a cold reading thing? There are no right or wrong answers people are just watching your reactions (facial movements, body language and then the actual verbal reply). Like graphology, tarot cards and palm reading.
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#38
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what do you guys see?

A man being sacrificed on top of a mountain to appease me.
#39
I have no doubt that the test reveals more about the individual administering it than the individual being tested.

Unless there are standardised answers with empirical basis (like correlations between specific answers and specific clinical conditions or personality traits), you're just uncovering the biases of the therapist/psychometrist.

The person administering the test decides the importance of the answers- It is he, not the patient/testee who determines whether the spider (for example) the he saw was threatening or not.
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#40
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I have no doubt that the test reveals more about the individual administering it than the individual being tested.

Unless there are standardised answers with empirical basis (like correlations between specific answers and specific clinical conditions or personality traits), you're just uncovering the biases of the therapist/psychometrist.

The person administering the test decides the importance of the answers- It is he, not the patient/testee who determines whether the spider (for example) the he saw was threatening or not.

Did not think of that. I agree.
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