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#1
Looking for tube screamer- what is the best from my options
Ts9
Ts9 turbo
Green rhino mkii
Ocd full tone
Maxon 808
Fulltone full drive

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#2
They are all variations on a theme. What do you want to do with the tubescreamer?
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#3
Controversial but Bad Monkey Tube Overdrive. You'll get a more versatile tone out of it and make a massive saving. I think they're underated and I've used OKKO Diablo OD, Fulltone full drive (all variations) KLON, Timmy's, OCD e.t.c. e.t.c. (all through Dr Z's and Fender Deluxe Reverb's). I'm not saying the bad monkey is flat out better than the ones I've listed. However, if I was to include cost as a factor then I would say it's better!

If that's a no then I would recommend the Fulldrive Full Tone!
#4
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#5
I enjoy the Ts9 Turbo but honestly I mainly use the normal ts9 settings. I used my friends Ts9 Turbo that was modded from Keeley.......... wow! What an overdrive!
#6
Quote by PanamaJack666
Controversial but Bad Monkey Tube Overdrive. You'll get a more versatile tone out of it and make a massive saving. I think they're underated and I've used OKKO Diablo OD, Fulltone full drive (all variations) KLON, Timmy's, OCD e.t.c. e.t.c. (all through Dr Z's and Fender Deluxe Reverb's). I'm not saying the bad monkey is flat out better than the ones I've listed. However, if I was to include cost as a factor then I would say it's better!

If that's a no then I would recommend the Fulldrive Full Tone!


I wouldn't really say the Bad Monkey is controversial, I've seen it suggested over a TS many times when people are asking about overdrive pedals.

Edit: Not just for price reasons, but having more control over the tone mainly.
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#8
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#9
Bad monkey good.
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#11
+1 on the bad monkey

I've heard that the hardwire od is like a "better" bad monkey, but i haven't tried it. the bad monkey is pretty sweet already, though...

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I like the joyo, but I think the bad monkey has it beat- similar price, more versatile. Neither really sounds better, just you can do more things with the bad monkey.
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#12
It's hard to go past the Bad Monkey but as nobody's said it yet:

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#13
Do you want a no frills TS, or something with a lot of bells and whistles?

Do you want to smooth your tone out, or add some grittiness to it?
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#15
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This^

Signa drive is a great pedal and very underrated around these parts.


Yeah this is probably one of the best sounding tube screamers clones I ever tried apart from the Sparkle Drive. Even better is the Super Signa Drive. The clean boost on that pedal is independently operated and sounds awesome. Otherwise if you are after a meat and potatos screamer without all the clipping options and etc. then definately the Bad Monkey.
#19
It's analog.
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#20
Thank you!

How would I set up my fx pedals with the following gear?

Boss tuner
Bad monkey
Isp decimator g string
Splawn nitro with effects loop
#22
Tuner > Bad Monkey > Splawn > FX send > Decimator > FX return.

With the Decimator triggered like Yianni just said ^
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#23
Bad Monkey should work really well with your Splawn as a boost. Gain = '0' Level = '10'

You certainly don't need anymore distortion

Good Luck,


PS: Just because it has Digitech in the name doesn't mean it is digital. Digitech makes a variety of analog pedals too.
#24
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
Bad Monkey should work really well with your Splawn as a boost. Gain = '0' Level = '10'

You certainly don't need anymore distortion

Good Luck,


PS: Just because it has Digitech in the name doesn't mean it is digital. Digitech makes a variety of analog pedals too.


Is that sarcasm? So I don't actually need a tube screamer?
#25
Quote by Mrgraeme
Is that sarcasm? So I don't actually need a tube screamer?

Tube screamers are commonly used in the settings 311 described, it's to push the front end of an amp, cut a little bass and add some mids. That's what a lot of the metal guys do. If that's what you are trying to do, I recommend you get the bad monkey or the joyo, depending on which ones cheaper and whether you want the additional tone knob of the bad monkey.

A lot of blues guys, on the other hand - use it for an overdriven lead sound (SRV for instance). If you are wanting to do that, the joyo or bad monkey might not cut it (depending on how much of a tone snob you are :P, in which case you might want to look at other pedals.

Other people like tube screamers without the mid boost and/or bass cut; and so more transparent tube screamer-esq pedals exist. But these aren't used as often by metal guys, who usually like the way normal tube screamers colour their tone.

That's why I asked what your application for a tube screamer is.
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#26
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#28
Quote by mulefish
Tube screamers are commonly used in the settings 311 described, it's to push the front end of an amp, cut a little bass and add some mids. That's what a lot of the metal guys do. If that's what you are trying to do, I recommend you get the bad monkey or the joyo, depending on which ones cheaper and whether you want the additional tone knob of the bad monkey.

A lot of blues guys, on the other hand - use it for an overdriven lead sound (SRV for instance). If you are wanting to do that, the joyo or bad monkey might not cut it (depending on how much of a tone snob you are :P, in which case you might want to look at other pedals.

Other people like tube screamers without the mid boost and/or bass cut; and so more transparent tube screamer-esq pedals exist. But these aren't used as often by metal guys, who usually like the way normal tube screamers colour their tone.

That's why I asked what your application for a tube screamer is.

With the extra knob a Bad Monkey can be dialed in pretty damn close to a TS9 (ie with the bass cut) if that's what's desired. Personally, I don't like the bass cut so I run mine with the bass knob turned up a bit. Best of both worlds really. For the money it's hard to beat.
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#29
^ I run mine with the bass cut as I use it as a boost. But I have the option of turning the bass up if I so desire. Which is a nice option to have.

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Not sarcasm at all.

Just do what I said.


I don't want to put words in 311's mouth, but just to clarify, I think he meant that you didn't need to turn the gain on the pedal up past 0, not that you didn't need a tubescreamer.
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#31
^

the boost will make the amp distort more, though. Which is worth clarifying. Just you're not adding any clipping (or very little, i suppose, ts-type pedals aren't 100% clean with the gain at 0, though the BM does seem a little cleaner at zero than a TS, more like an SD1 in that regard) from the pedal.
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#33
Doesn't everybody mod their tubescreamers? The Bad Monkey is like a tubescreamer I've modded. ie modified bass response (but variable) and able to clean up better. I could have bought the Joyo TS and modded it or buy a Bad Monkey for $20 more that already had the necessary mods. Well, that's the way I saw it anyway.
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#34
Quote by Cathbard
Doesn't everybody mod their tubescreamers?

Depends on the application.
From a personal stand point I wanted a tube screamer for a specific purpose, and that was for the way it coloured my tone as a boost

I didn't want transparent.
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#35
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
Bad Monkey should work really well with your Splawn as a boost. Gain = '0' Level = '10'

You certainly don't need anymore distortion

Good Luck,


PS: Just because it has Digitech in the name doesn't mean it is digital. Digitech makes a variety of analog pedals too.


I have a nitro and promod (both kt88) they are a select few that don't need to be boosted.

Do you have everything now?

I actually don't care for the bad monkey, i owned one and ditched it in favor of a bbe green screamer which at the time sold new for $50.

If i were to get a ts, green rhino would be my pick.

Imo timmy' s are the best medium priced/budget way to go.

My timmy gets used much more than any of my other pedals.
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#36
+1 to not liking the bad monkey, or the tube screamer for that matter. I prefer a boss sd-1, if not, a bd-2(which I think is a lil closer to a TS). IMO the Fulldrive 2 is a very, very good version of an sd-1.

If you try a TS and don't like it...try an sd-1 or Fulldrive
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#37
Check the Wampler Paisley Drive if you're interested in a darker Screamer.
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#38
Quote by mulefish
Depends on the application.
From a personal stand point I wanted a tube screamer for a specific purpose, and that was for the way it coloured my tone as a boost

I didn't want transparent.


i wouldn't say the bad monkey is transparent. slightly more transparent than a ts, not transparent, lol. it still sounds pretty tubescreamery to me. also you can dial it in to sound pretty darn close to a ts.

Quote by lucky1978
+1 to not liking the bad monkey, or the tube screamer for that matter. I prefer a boss sd-1, if not, a bd-2(which I think is a lil closer to a TS).


an sd1 is way closer to a ts than a bd2. an sd1 is basically a ts with asymmetrical clipping, no smoothing cap in the feedback loop and slightly different values for the pots (so it can be dialled in to be both cleaner and gainier than a ts). it's basically an edgier/fizzier ts, but it's in the same ballpark if you ask me (which is not to say you might not prefer one or the other, of course).

the bd2 is totally different. it's a more transparent od (actually transparent, not bad monkey-transparent, lol).
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#39
^ I'm sure you're right.
I use the sd1 for utter nastiness and the bd2 for a lil grit. I use the bd2 like others use a TS.which led to my assumption. I definitely prefer either over a TS or clone for either application.
Thanks for the correction
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#40
^ no worries
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