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#1
I might be making a low budget short film. There's a scene at the end where the star (not me) gets pretty badly beaten and I'd like to make it fairly authentic. (slow motion close ups) It's kinda the same feeling as Ultimate fighting stuff in the movie, but one sided.

How much would you expect to be paid for facial cuts, bruises blood, basically how one of those Ultimate fighting guys face looks, but no serious doctor stuff, or broken facial bones.

I'm thinking about $500 or so
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Anyways, pretty sure mainstream Hollywood won't be far behind on this concept
Last edited by Tempoe at Jul 26, 2013,
#3
I'm sure there are plenty of people that will beat the shit out of you for free, you don't need to pay them...
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#4
Might make you a star, online at least... so equivalent of a porn star

Not me, I'm filming, not acting
#5
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I'm sure there are plenty of people that will beat the shit out of you for free, you don't need to pay them...


Getting paid to be beaten up


key words bolded.
#6
Absolutely not. I probably wouldn't star in your film even if you did remove the whole "getting the piss beat out of you for comparatively small change" aspect of the proposition.
#7
Beat him up in the middle of the shot and then ask for how much he wants. That way, his expressions would be just as real.
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#8
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key words bolded.


Yes dear, I know, it was a deliberate misreading.

You really need to stop buying your sense of humor based on price, those cheap chinese-made ones aren't worth a shit...
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#9
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Yes dear, I know, it was a deliberate misreading.

Congratulations on being deliberately unfunny in that case.
#10
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Congratulations on being deliberately unfunny in that case.


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#11
What Will said, it's kind of a problem if the giver of said beating doesn't know what he's doing. Ask around your available actor circle so you get the feel of price.


Oh and hey Arby I would just like to point out that your joke wasn't funny
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What Will said, it's kind of a problem if the giver of said beating doesn't know what he's doing. Ask around your available actor circle so you get the feel of price.


Oh and hey Arby I would just like to point out that your joke wasn't funny


Seems several of you got beat up a lot as children (and probably still do/are) and thus I've touched a sore spot...
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#14
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Congratulations on being deliberately unfunny in that case.


hahahaha I don't think I've ever seen a "joke" on here fall that flat.


anyways, why not just learn how to fake getting beaten up, like what actors do. It's kind of their thing you know, acting.
#18
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hahahaha I don't think I've ever seen a "joke" on here fall that flat.


anyways, why not just learn how to fake getting beaten up, like what actors do. It's kind of their thing you know, acting.

There's nothing more genuine than immersing yourself in the role and the moment. Think about it from the perspective of the actor. Nobody is going to believe that somebody actually beat the piss out of you on camera & that you let them, so they are just going to assume that you are a fucking brilliant actor.
#19
You do know that there are simple camera and editing techniques that means it looks authentic but is fake right? Giving the illusion of authenticity is a much better achievement and practice than actually just beating the guy up.
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#21
somebody should front an hj, at least.
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#23
Also, real fights tend to be boring.

I've never seen a real fist fight any where near as cool as a movie fist fight.

I've never seen a boxing match as exciting as "Cinderella Man", "Raging Bull" or "Rocky".

The Karate match in "The Karate Kid" (The original, not that Jayden Smith pile of crap) was far better than any real tournaments I've seen or participated in.

Movie fights are far more dynamic.

If you mean your still going to have it choreographed, but have them really hit each other. That's just stupid, because you run the risk of injury and your actor may not be able to complete the film and it still will look boring.

As for Hollywood catching on? Hah. You do know that most movie companies hire drivers for the principal actors for the duration of the shoot. They aren't allowed to drive themselves for fear of accident, DUI, whatever that may cause a delay in the shoot.
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#24
Remember to add plenty of realistic "thwomp" "thwack" and "crunch" sounds for every hit.
#25
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Also, real fights tend to be boring.

I've never seen a real fist fight any where near as cool as a movie fist fight.

I've never seen a boxing match as exciting as "Cinderella Man", "Raging Bull" or "Rocky".

The Karate match in "The Karate Kid" (The original, not that Jayden Smith pile of crap) was far better than any real tournaments I've seen or participated in.

Movie fights are fat more dynamic.

If you mean your still going to have it choreographed, but have them really hit each other. That's just stupid, because you run the risk of injury and your actor may not be able to complete the film and it still will look boring.

As for Hollywood catching on? Hah. You do know that most movie companies hire drivers for the principal actors for the duration of the shoot. They aren't allowed to drive themselves for fear of accident, DUI, whatever that may cause a delay in the shoot.


A fistfight where I live is normally a few drunk locals trying to swing for each other and missing and falling into a wall.

Its like free entertainment!

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Which can be achieved by hitting a rounders/baseball bat onto a lettuce covered with a tea towel. True story
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A fistfight where I live is normally a few drunk locals trying to swing for each other and missing and falling into a wall.

Its like free entertainment!



If he is aiming to do a comedy.. There you go.

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Which can be achieved by hitting a rounders/baseball bat onto a lettuce covered with a tea towel. True story


Or twisting a few celery stalks makes a good bone breaking "crunch". Foley sound is truly an art of it's own.
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#27
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#28
Here's where I see a massive problem with this...

You're going to suggest that a bunch of amateur people with little or no real training are to beat the crap out of someone and 'make it look authentic' enough to leave bruises and cuts, and that there's an amount of money that rationalizes that.

You couldn't pay me ten thousand dollars to just lay on the ground and let people with no training kick me to the point of leaving heavy marks. There are stuntmen and actors/fighers/martial artists who are trained to do this sort of thing for a reason, and that reason is not so you and your buddies can give a guy $500 bucks to stomp him out in your back yard to make a scene.
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#29
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If he is aiming to do a comedy.. There you go.


Yep, TS if you're doing a comedy, come to Portsmouth!

Or twisting a few celery stalks makes a good bone breaking "crunch". Foley sound is truly an art of it's own.


Ooh I like that one.

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#30
these are the kind of ideas that they come up with in Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia where they abuse Cricket and don't give him anything in return
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#32
But movies show close up all the time of action and nobody is actually getting hit
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#33
How much does he pay for it in Dirty Harry?

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#38
Personally, I'd be expecting £15000, plus £10000 for every scar that comes from it, and you to sign a contract that allows me to take you to court if the wounds take over one week to heal, and I'd reserve the right to have you and everyone involved arrested for assault if I was even a bit unhappy about it. Appearance is a huge part of acting, and you're putting that at risk by having a bunch of amateurs attack you because they've never heard of makeup, so most actors will do what I've just done and make such high demands that if anything does go wrong, we can at least enjoy a few months relaxation while you're all facing assault charges. Really, what good's going to come of it? It'd be a really uncomfortable scene, seeing someone beaten up for real, and it'll look awkward, as you guys will be trying to balance giving him a beating and not giving him so much of a beating that he'll use your film as evidence for an attempted murder charge, it'll look like a bunch of seven year olds fighting while thinking "Mummy won't let me play xbox if I get detention ". Really, why?
#39
i'll do it, but not for cash.

you have to take one punch for every punch i take.

interested?
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#40
fights... after awhile the pains goes but jail is lookin nice... idk I quess its almost a job
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