#1
Hey,

Ive been looking for a new amp for a while now because my HT5 just sounds bad to me. I cant seem to get a nice tone i want for the metal side of playing.
Its a good amp yeah but im just bored of it now.

What im after is a parkway/KSE kinda metal sound. But also keeping the cleans and being able to roll the gain back a bit and play some pop punk stuff.

Amps ive been looking at have been:

Marshall JCM 900 SL X
JCA 50 head
Peavey 6505/XXX

I guess part of me has always loved the 6505 but i want something similar to that but with cleans. (guess we all do in a way)

Budget of around £400 and yes used is fine.
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#2
If you want cleans rule the Marshall out, no cleans to be had on that one at all.

The 6505 is a good bet, cleans aren't awe-inspiring but good enough. It's pretty much the go to for the sounds you want.
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#3
6505+ is THE Parkway sound. That and a Mesa Recto 4x12, and you're golden. Throw in a noise gate and MAYBE a tube screamer, you got the perfect metal setup.
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#4
Laney Ironheart or 6505+.
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#5
Quote by emerald876
6505+ is THE Parkway sound. That and a Mesa Recto 4x12, and you're golden. Throw in a noise gate and MAYBE a tube screamer, you got the perfect metal setup.



I kinda wanted to stay away form the 6505 cuz they are LOUD but Looks like im gonna get one then. I do have a Zilla 2x12 loaded with V'30s a TS and a noise gate too so should be fine then after i get the head

Was wondering on other options that could be quieter
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#6
Quote by Carrot
I kinda wanted to stay away form the 6505 cuz they are LOUD but Looks like im gonna get one then. I do have a Zilla 2x12 loaded with V'30s a TS and a noise gate too so should be fine then after i get the head

Was wondering on other options that could be quieter


Put an EQ in the loop and turn the level slider down.

Solution for every amp that's "too loud" ever.
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#7
I have an SL-X and while it's a great amp on it's own (and can do quite good cleans if you know what you're doing), it probably isn't the right one for the Parkway Drive or KSE kind of tone.

6505(+) would be your best bet. Cleans really aren't that bad by the way, just pretty dry sounding. And the distorted tone from it is pretty damn awesome.
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#8
6505. The volume knob controls the.....
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#9
the jet city is hard to beat for the price it goes for on thomann. admittedly, more of a crunch channel than a clean channel, and the 6505 may well be more suitable as the others are saying. but if you consider that a new 6505 is 4x the price of the jet city...
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the jet city is hard to beat for the price it goes for on thomann. admittedly, more of a crunch channel than a clean channel, and the 6505 may well be more suitable as the others are saying. but if you consider that a new 6505 is 4x the price of the jet city...


This is why im thinking Jet city. But i dont know if im gonna get it then a few days/weeks later think "I should of got that used 6505+"

I should probs go find a shop that has the JCA 50 in stock
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#11
yeah i mean it's really up to you. I mean it's not a good deal if it doesn't suit what you want to play. and only buying stuff because it's a good deal isn't much fun either. But it's still worth bearing in mind.
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#12
I'm surprised no one has said EVH 5150 III, great clean channel and a tight aggressive lead channel while ch2 does everything inbetween
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I'm surprised no one has said EVH 5150 III, great clean channel and a tight aggressive lead channel while ch2 does everything inbetween


I dont have that kinda money to spend on one.

Ive been reduced to looking at a Bugera 6262 again aha
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Quote by Carrot
I dont have that kinda money to spend on one.

Ive been reduced to looking at a Bugera 6262 again aha

OK, That sucks. what is your budget ?

Bugeras sound really nice, the build quality just sucks. I would try and go Jet City JCA50 or better if you can. Even the Laney Ironheart would be worth looking at
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OK, That sucks. what is your budget ?

Bugeras sound really nice, the build quality just sucks. I would try and go Jet City JCA50 or better if you can. Even the Laney Ironheart would be worth looking at



Budget of around £400.

I wouldnt mind getting a bugera again tbh but the 6262 i had was a bit too loud. It was the combo plugged into my 2x12 cab as well aha..

So it looks like the Bugers (6262/6260) or the good deals on the Peaveys. And maybe the JCA50
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Quote by Robbgnarly
I'm surprised no one has said EVH 5150 III, great clean channel and a tight aggressive lead channel while ch2 does everything inbetween

Wouldn't call the 'clean channel' great.
Channel 2 and 3 basically sound the same (both to me and the friend I tested it with), only differing in gain. And channel 2 already had more gain than anyone would ever need for anything. Of course you could use channel 3 as a solo-channel.

But overall I thought the 6505+ is the better sounding amp and has more tonal variety.
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#17
Ok not great, but pretty good for a high gain head, and better than most.

I thought the 5150 III was more versatile than the 6505 or 5150II my buddy has.
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#18
Depending on your budget there's a few options that are worth considering..

A Framus Cobra is basically a 6505 without the fizz and a legitimate clean channel, but they're pricey.

EVH 5153

Splawn Quick Rod or Nitro for the KSE stuff, since that's what they're using nowadays. I owned a Quick Rod and didn't think it had enough gain to do metal very well (without a boost), but it's definitely a nice amp.

Peavey JSX is a solid option for both having one of the best squeaky clean tones from a high gainer, and a brutal OD channel. They can be had for a good price nowadays too

Peavey 5150/6505 (obviously)

Carvin V3 might interest you, the only experience with these I've had is a V3m (which wasn't impressive). The regular version is a lot better amp than the micro from what I've heard.

Peavey XXX, which are rather cheap now (used).

If you're wanting a clean channel I would opt for the 100W model instead of the 50W Jet City, more headroom with the bigger power section. They definitely have more clean potential than a 5150/6505, but it's not a dedicated clean channel either.

If you really dig the Marshall thing, I would seriously consider looking for a Peavey VTM. They're obscure and hard to find, but damn do they nail the angry Marshall in spades. And they can be had for under $300 all day long because they're so under the radar. Marshall sent them a cease and desist letter because it was so similar to their JCM800, so they weren't made very long. The 120W version is supposed to be tighter than the 60W version for what it's worth

Here's my review on the VTM I have https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1595672
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