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#1
Inspired by some of the responses in Swan's thread, do you tend to think (whether on purpose or by knee-jerk reaction) that you're better than another person if you notice they have racist, sexist or homophobic tendencies?
#3
Only in regards to like, social equality, individual liberties, fairness, etc. Not necessarily better as a person.

It factors into my subconscious evaluation of them in their entirety, though, of course.

For instance, if MLK Jr had, for instance, a tendency to being judgmental of the military, I wouldn't think I'm a better person than him because I think many of his other quality put him as a whole well above me.
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#6
among other reasons, yes.
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#7
Morally, yes. I'd say so are most of the people who believe it's wrong too.
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#8
If if was just little remarks here and there, then no. I know some people who say some uncool shit every once in a while. I think they're kinda idiots about it but I don't feel above them or anything.

But if they were like a huge asshole about a lot of stuff, then yea, obviously.
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#10
yeah.

i do distinguish between making unfunny racist/etc jokes and being willfully ignorant/blatantly bigoted though.

i'm still better than all of you anyway.
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#12
Generally yes. Because it makes them worse.
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If if was just little remarks here and there, then no. I know some people who say some uncool shit every once in a while. I think they're kinda idiots about it but I don't feel above them or anything.

But if they were like a huge asshole about a lot of stuff, then yea, obviously.


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#14
Not really, no, because then wouldn't I be just as bad as they are?

At point should hate become justified? I suppose a smug feeling of superiority isn't exactly hate, but with the occasional act here, or comment there, it could evolve quickly enough.
#15
that's too vague a question. it doesn't make sense for me to declare myself better than someone else in general because it leads to the obvious question: better at what? the summation of our skills at every imaginable activity? nonsense. better at treating fellow humans with respect? sure, i guess. but no amount of sexist comments will make me better at swinging a hammer than another guy, if you know what i'm saying.

i don't prescribe to the concept of a moral high ground. i'm a secular person, so without a higher power telling us what's right and wrong, we all must at some point learn and decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong. you can use reason to guide this, but that isn't inherent. if i believe that my moral judgement is more reasonable than another's, i don't "take the moral high ground" i just explain myself.
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#17
What do you mean "better"? You mean smarter? Morally superior?
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That you're better than another person if you notice they have racist, sexist or homophobic tendencies?


I feel like they're just children. Morally I feel they are not developed and using misinformed moral systems that are maladaptive/destructive. Moral or cultural relativism is bullshit and a weak argument; there are moral positions that are better than others.

I usually feel older in some sense, even if they are older by age. I feel like they are children, and I think "Oh you little dickens! If only you were mature/smart/developed enough to understand!". The way I look at a child, with all their shortcomings due to some incapacity, lack of development, and obvious immaturity.
#19
Sometimes I feel better than other people for the hell of it.

You can call me smug sometimes.
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#20
It's not that I'm better than them. It's that they're worse than me.
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#22
Nope. People are different. No one way of thinking is better than another. Some may be advantageous in certain situations while disadvantageous in others. This applies to racism as well.

Plus, I'd be interested in hearing why someone is racist, and you can't find that out if you're acting like a morally-superior cunt.
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Plus, I'd be interested in hearing why someone is racist, and you can't find that out if you're acting like a morally-superior cunt.

I asked someone on PSN one time in a very calming manor. At first, he literally went up to me out of nowhere thinking I was black and told me I deserved to die and all that.

Then I asked and he told me it was because of their skin color, their hips, their eyes, their overall shape, and their culture.

Then after pointing out I was Hispanic, he proceeded to call me a beaner and ran up to other black people.

I'm aware this isn't the single answer every racist person has, but that's as close to an answer as I've ever gotten from a racist.
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#24
No, i just lose maximum respect for them as a person and become somewhat un-hospitable towards them. I don't like to be around such shit.
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Not really, no, because then wouldn't I be just as bad as they are?

At point should hate become justified? I suppose a smug feeling of superiority isn't exactly hate, but with the occasional act here, or comment there, it could evolve quickly enough.


'Injustice' is often defined as something that creates a victim, so racism, sexism and homophobic reactions would naturaly all be injustices because they create victims in people of different races, sexes and sexual orientation via discrimination against them.
Justice is something that is used to stand up to and right the wrongs of injustice.
So, it's wrong to hate justice but right to hate injustice, ergo, hate becomes justified when it's a hatred of injustice.
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'Injustice' is often defined as something that creates a victim, so racism, sexism and homophobic reactions would naturaly all be injustices because they create victims in people of different races, sexes and sexual orientation via discrimination against them.
Justice is something that is used to stand up to and right the wrongs of injustice.
So, it's wrong to hate justice but right to hate injustice, ergo, hate becomes justified when it's a hatred of injustice.


But by treating such a person as an inferior organism, wouldn't you be sinking to their level, and thus making them a victim of the same injustices that they commit? Granted, I'm sure "hating" someone for hating other people wouldn't result in actions nearly as rash as the actions of that original hatred. Hopefully.

I just choose to treat everyone like human beings - and since I'm cursed with paralyzing shyness, "human beings" in synonymous with "terrifying monsters" in most situations, though I'm pretty sure such comparisons have been made even by people who aren't in my rather unfortunate social position.
#29
yes, I feel superior if I notice it because they acted on those tendencies (active discrimination/marginalization).

if it's something like where they tell me "I hate [group of people] for no reason they just suck etc" I would find it disgusting that they felt the need to tell me but I wouldn't necessarily feel superior to them because I occasionally have thoughts like that too, except I keep it to myself.
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#30
All other things equal, yes. But that's rarely the case.
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#31
Absolutely because racists, sexists and homophobes are all idiots. Just look at Coreysmonster
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For instance, if MLK Jr had, for instance, a tendency to being judgmental of the military, I wouldn't think I'm a better person than him

Probably because being against the military would make him a better person than you.
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I just think those people are dicks. I don't think I'm better than anybody.

As usual this dude knows what's up.
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Absolutely because racists, sexists and homophobes are all idiots. Just look at Coreysmonster

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oh, he's german. that explains it

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#39
I only picked Ryan because he has somewhat of a reputation

In my chats with him in TC he seems pretty chill
#40
I don't feel that I'm better, I am.
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