#1
So I'm stuck between 3 headphones:

Sennheiser HD 201
JVC HARX 700
Panasonic RP-HTX7

I want to know which one will give me accurate sound with natural depth.


And please don't suggest Beats by Dre, I've tried all the models and they sounded too unnaturally deep and muddy, like one of those huge podium speakers with the bass turned up on your ears.

EDIT: Also I want to be able to clearly hear the subtle things in the music, like the cowbell, piano, and pickguard scratching in Eric Johnson's Manhattan. With Beats Studio, I barely heard the piano, and couldn't hear the cowbell or pickguard hits at all.

No corksniffer here, but I just like hearing cool stuff.
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And please don't suggest Beats by Dre, I've tried all the models and they sounded too unnaturally deep and muddy, like one of those huge podium speakers with the bass turned up on your ears.

EDIT: Also I want to be able to clearly hear the subtle things in the music, like the cowbell, piano, and pickguard scratching in Eric Johnson's Manhattan. With Beats Studio, I barely heard the piano, and couldn't hear the cowbell or pickguard hits at all.

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I haven't actually used any of these, but I've heard good things about the HD 201s. In fact, apparently they're on my to-buy list. If someone says something different, listen to them, but this is just here for what it's worth (and it's not worth much).
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#3
If it's only between those 3 then go for the Sennheiser, unless you really like the look of the Panasonic.

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#4
look at bose head phones, i have a friend that owns a pair and they are AMAZING, they're lie 150 more or less and i incredibly natural and you can here the most subtle things with them they are incredible
#6
Out of those, definitely Sennheiser.
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Sennheiser HD 201

You cannot go wrong with Sennheiser

I guess Sennheiser it is then!
#8
HD201s are ridiculously good headphones for £20, everyone should have a pair. Now go and make some noise.

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And please don't suggest Beats by Dre, I've tried all the models and they sounded too unnaturally deep and muddy, like one of those huge podium speakers with the bass turned up on your ears.


But don't you know they're....

The Headphones Used To Mix In Every Major Studio. Beats Pro headphones are designed for sound engineers, musicians, and those who take sound seriously. They’re the headphones that artists like Will.i.am use in the studio, and are designed to deliver the same level of emotion and power the artist originally intended.

Beats Pro professional headphones sound so good because they put back the quality lost in modern-day file compression. That means you’re really hearing music the way it was originally heard by the artist in the studio.




#9
I don't know about the other headphones but the Sennheiser's have no bass.
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I don't know about the other headphones but the Sennheiser's have no bass.
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I noticed if you increase the dB in the graph the bass moves up quite a bit. Not really an issue, Im not the type of person who listens to dubstep with my volume set to 1
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HD201s are ridiculously good headphones for £20, everyone should have a pair. Now go and make some noise.


But don't you know they're....

The Headphones Used To Mix In Every Major Studio. Beats Pro headphones are designed for sound engineers, musicians, and those who take sound seriously. They’re the headphones that artists like Will.i.am use in the studio, and are designed to deliver the same level of emotion and power the artist originally intended.

Beats Pro professional headphones sound so good because they put back the quality lost in modern-day file compression. That means you’re really hearing music the way it was originally heard by the artist in the studio.






Cant tell if you're being sarcastic ,but not even Dr.Dre uses Beats to produce
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Don't worry, Mr OfCourseNot, bass extension on the 201s is fine. They're reasonably light and neutral down at the rumbly end of the spectrum, which is generally a good thing for mixing.
#13
My HD201's are lovely for the price. Granted, they're not the best headphones you'll ever use, but for £20, they're well worth the money. As discussed, they're pretty light on the bass, but if you just make sure you listen to your mixes on something with some bass as well as them, you'll probably be fine.

Don't know if this matters to anyone else, but they're a touch quiet. Fine for mixing and stuff, but you certainly couldn't hear them over a drumkit, if you're trying to drum to a track. Can't have everything for £20, I guess
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#14
You can't get the AKG K240 instead? I think they're about $100. K99 or the Audio Technica ATH-M30 if you're on a budget.
To the Bose suggestion - you don't want an overhyped sound for tracking/mixing and Bose are known to do just that, so stick to the pro audio market for headphones.
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Are there any cheap headphones with flat response?

One of the main reasons that monitoring headphones get more and more expensive if because getting a 'flat response' is physically impossible - the law of diminishing returns comes into play.

If for some reason you don't fancy the HD201, Superlux have one or two very nice sets in that price range. The AKG K series are generally alright too.
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By the way: these (Sony MDR-ZX300) are what I've been using for the last... uh... year? Two? They're good, I guess, and they're cheap, but I've got nothing to compare them to. Does anyone else have any experience with them?


Dont know about the 300s, but my sister's pair of zx100s sound very shallow and stuffy
#19
Those Sennheisers have a reputation, so you can't go wrong with them. But if you're serious you should really be looking in the $100- $200 range. You won't get accurate headphones for less than $100. And each headphone has its own sound signature, so it's important to know what exactly you're getting. If it's just for pleasure you probably want to go with something catered to your favorite type of music. Some headphones are more suited for classical, or rock, or hip hop.

But if you're going for accuracy (like if you're mixing and mastering), then you want flat, uncolored headphones with a wide frequency response. The Audio-Technica ATH-M50 is the standard closed-back headphone for this application. It is an unbiased headphone that won't color the sound in any way, but it has the amount of detail you would need for mixing. It can be scored for about $110 used.

Another headphone I'd recommend is the Grado Alessando MS-1. It can be had for $100 new and is an open-back headphone. It's great for rock music as it has very pronounced upper midrange and deep, but not overwhelming, bass response. For other types of music it's not the most accurate, but when dealing with guitars it can be useful.

If it's just for pleasure then you should do some research amongst the audiophile community and find a $100 headphone that suits your musical needs, but if it's for audio production a professional closed-back headphone is a must. The ATH-M50 is a great place to start for both work and pleasure if you're unsure. I'm only saying this because it seems like you're actually serious about the quality of your listening experience.

A few general suggestions:
Beyerdynamic DT770

AKG K701

Audio-Technica ATH AD700

Grado SR80

Sony MDR-V600
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#20
The AKG K240 is a studio staple and goes at $100. Great all rounders and natural sounding headphones from anything from tracking to mixing. You'd pretty much see them in any studio you walk in to and for a reason.

The K99 also works well for mixing on lower budget, but I wouldn't rely on headphones only as you can lose perspective of the low end.
#21
I've liked the Sannheisers I've messed around with where I work. My favorite headphones that I've heard are Plantronics studio headphones...can't remember the model though (Sorry!).

Beats, Monster DNA, Sol Republic and all of those headphones are good. Not necessarily for the money, but for the genre they're designed for...hip hop and rap. They're bass and treble heavy. They're great for the average joe who wants bump but if you want sound authenticity they're garbage.
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#22
Damn man, went into Bestbuy, listened to every headphone there, and NOTHING even came close to how transparent and honest the sound in the 201s were, like all the Beats, Beats pro, Beats studio, BOSE $200 wooden phones, SONYs with those fluffy red earpads, even the sub 300 DJ headphones... but the 201s had no bass or soundstage so I returned them for a pair of 419s

I suppose you can't have everything for 20 bucks
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Damn man, went into Bestbuy, listened to every headphone there, and NOTHING even came close to how transparent and honest the sound in the 201s were, like all the Beats, Beats pro, Beats studio, BOSE $200 wooden phones, SONYs with those fluffy red earpads, even the sub 300 DJ headphones... but the 201s had no bass or soundstage so I returned them for a pair of 419s

I suppose you can't have everything for 20 bucks


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I've not been impressed with anything bose makes other than the suspension system they sold to GM several years ago.

Most of your classic rock and blues isn't going to have strong bass. That is something that has been "enhanced and boosted" throughout the years. For pure audio enjoyment a true studio headphone will work well, but most of us after being exposed to "enhanced" music tend to enjoy headphones that add some color to the sound.
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^WTF? Corey, you still post on here!?! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!?!?!
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At Best Buy 44 hours a week hahah.

I've actually just posted a couple things, a new thread about DAWs, AIs, Garageband and some other stuff.

Trying to get back into recording stuff so I needed some help from UG.
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#26
I have the K240's and they're great for more surgical listening, but I wouldn't use them to mix on. They make monitors for that.

I also don't use them for tracking. They're not loud enough for a lot of things, and I don't want to abuse them by cranking my headphone amp. Also, they're semi-open-ear design, so they bleed into the mic for a lot of quieter things.

For tracking, I have a few pairs I pick up from time to time at the surplus store - Samson and stuff... usually about $5-$10. Cheap, sound mostly kinda crappy, but loud enough for pretty well any application and closed-back design. And cheap enough that if they break, you just get more.

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