Bowkore
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#1
Going to install leds in my fretboard and will need to remove the frets to feed the copper through.

How exactly can I remove the frets and put them back with minimum damage to the fingerboard?
Robbgnarly
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#2
You can remove them with a pair of front-cut/snip pliers. You will not be able to reuse them, you will have to get new fret-wire. To properly refret it you will need to clamp the frets down, hammering them is not advised.
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#4
Can i just buy some new frets and put them in instead?
jacobparkhurst
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#5
Your going to buy some tools to do a good job, fret pullers and soldering iron to take them out. Fret slot cleaning tool before installing new ones, fret punch and fret hammer, depending on how you want fret ends might need some fret tang. Even after all that it's highly recommend to level all frets and recrown them.
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#6
not worth it unless you know what you're doing and have the tools
Robbgnarly
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#9
Quote by Bowkore
Can i just buy some new frets and put them in instead?

You buy fret wire and cut the wire to the size you need, I am not aware of any place that sells precut fret wire.

the re-fretting is not super hard and can be done, but the big issue is leveling the frets after you install them.

be aware that you will end up spending more money than you expect on tools and materials.

What is your budget for doing this work?


Here are a few sites that have all the supplys and tools you will need (some tools are regular tools that are sold in hardware stores much cheaper, but some are specialty tools)
www.stewmac.com
www.grizzly.com
www.universaljems.com
www.lmii.com
www.alliedlutherie.com
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Lavatain
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#10
Where on the fretboard do you intend on installing LEDs? If its as side dots or inlays, then I don't think removing frets would be necessary. For either of those places you'd want to have the neck and fretboard separate to run a line underneath the fretboard that'll allow the wiring for the LEDs.
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Rusty_Chisel
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#11
Isn't he going to need to remove the fretboard regardless of where the LEDs will be on the fretboard?
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#12
Quote by Lavatain
Where on the fretboard do you intend on installing LEDs? If its as side dots or inlays, then I don't think removing frets would be necessary. For either of those places you'd want to have the neck and fretboard separate to run a line underneath the fretboard that'll allow the wiring for the LEDs.

Installing them on the inlays, but im wiring them up so that when i press down on the 3,5,7 etc frets that individual led lights up. So im feeding a copper wire through to hit the fret so that the string acts as a contact switch with the fret when it makes contact lighting the LED.

And im australian too, do these websites ship down under?
Robbgnarly
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#13
Yes they ship world wide, if you need to order tools/supplys.

Stewmac has just about any thing you can want and even some tools that are only available from them.

But like I said some of the "gutar" tools are just rebadged regular tools they charge 10x the price for.
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jacobparkhurst
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#14
If your looking for tools try crimson guitars there based in Dorchester and have started producing a lot of tools and they have a guild you can join and watch how to use them, I just got a 3 sided fret file from them at a good price
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#15
Quote by Bowkore
Installing them on the inlays, but im wiring them up so that when i press down on the 3,5,7 etc frets that individual led lights up. So im feeding a copper wire through to hit the fret so that the string acts as a contact switch with the fret when it makes contact lighting the LED.

And im australian too, do these websites ship down under?


Have you done a proper mock up and actual test of your idea before you go stripping your fretboard?
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#16
Quote by Phoenix V
Have you done a proper mock up and actual test of your idea before you go stripping your fretboard?

Yeah ive been researching videos and tutorials, and no I havent stripped it yet.

I've got a crappy F-10 im going to practice on and mod about with first before i attempt it on a proper guitar im keen on
johnnykbop
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#17
Well videos and tutorials make things look so much easier than they actually are. More to the point most of the people making them have at least some experience.

Is it really worth ruining a bunch of guitars for this?