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Hi,

I've recently been looking into telecasters. I used to not like them, but i was playing a friends and i can safely say i've had a massive change of heart! Im currently playing a Les Paul but it just... Isn't as fun as the tele, in my opinion!
So, does anyone have any suggestions for a tele that i could buy? Let's put a budget of £500 (i could sell my les paul if something was reallyyyy special) but i wouldnt want to go much over my budget.
I mostly play rock and blues, metal occasionally but it is very seldom.
Thanks for any suggestions!
Im open to any makes of guitar, it doesnt necessarily have to be Fender!

Thanks for any replies
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Fender Standard Tele is always a good choice http://www.andertons.co.uk/solid-body-electric-guitars/pid10173/cid671/fender-standard-tele-124-candy-apple-red-124-maple-fretboard.asp

http://www.andertons.co.uk/solid-body-electric-guitars/pid22694/cid671/fender-blacktop-telecaster-baritone-in-ghost-silver.asp - Baritone if you feel like tuning lower and cranking out some moodier heavier stuff

http://www.andertons.co.uk/solid-body-electric-guitars/pid25095/cid671/fender-cabronita-telecaster-in-black.asp - Big fan of the Fidelitron pickups in the Cabronita, you may not dig them though. Sort of an acquired taste I guess.

https://www.fender.com/guitars/telecaster/vintaged-modified-tele-thinline-rosewood-fingerboard-black/ - The Squier VM series are top notch instruments. By no means American quality, but still very good imo. I really like them.

Go to a store and play every Tele you can man. They all have similar qualities regardless of the pickups in them, but some are suited better for certain genres than others. Don't count out Squier stuff by any means.
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Fender Baja Telecaster. In my opinion, one of the best Telecasters under a grand. Very well made, pickups are USA Custom Shop. Very nice guitar and definitely should be high on your list. And it looks like a US made one, too.
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Quote by Charvel1995

The Squier VM series are top notch instruments. By no means American quality, but still very good imo. I really like them.


Top notch instrument, yet by no means american quality eh?
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I have this MIM tele
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/fender-standard-telecaster-fsr-ash-electric-guitar-with-vintage-noiseless-pickups

No issues with it at all. The set up was perfect right out of the box. It can be hit and miss as many say, I bought a Fender MIM J Bass and can not get the action adjusted properly for some reason.

For comparison this is one of the best video's I've seen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCEdT2d43jU


On the G&L note I have the JC Rampage and play that more than Les Paul, the tone is not as great as the LP but it's so comfortable... I play that all the time.
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Dave_Mc
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You can get an MIJ tokai tele for around your budget. Nice guitars, worth considering.

Fretking blue labels can be had around £400. Also nice guitars. EDIT: ninja'd

I'd try to get a mexican classic series if you're looking at fenders, the MIM standard's pickups are a bit shite. And the classics are probably nicer guitars, too.

FWIW I was the same, I used to hate teles till I tried them, and then it all made sense.

EDIT: I'm not sure it's worth getting a bridge humbucker tele for the metal if you only occasionally play it, especially if you're keeping your LP (and I'm not sure there's that much point in selling it, you'd have to spend a good bit more to get anything much nicer than those ones I listed). A tele bridge single coil can handle a fair bit of dirt, certainly up to rock/hard rock without too much trouble. And assuming you want the classic tele tone, the tele bridge single coil is the way to go.

Quote by Fumble fingers


apart from in europe, where the prices (on the USA ones, at least) are crazy.

Quote by Funk Monk
Top notch instrument, yet by no means american quality eh?


Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

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Quote by Dave_Mc
You can get an MIJ tokai tele for around your budget. Nice guitars, worth considering.

+1

i haven't tried the fret kings of the ones danny mentioned, but i trust his opinion as well as dave's.
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Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

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Jackson JTX. If you can find one, I recommend the hell outta it.



Although they may be more suited to metal than you're looking for. But still the best guitar I've ever owned.
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Quote by Funk Monk
Top notch instrument, yet by no means american quality eh?


For where they're being produced I think they're top notch instruments.
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Quote by jjfeu662
Jackson JTX. If you can find one, I recommend the hell outta it.



Although they may be more suited to metal than you're looking for. But still the best guitar I've ever owned.


liked that since i saw it in your NGD thread. awesome
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

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You can get an MIJ tokai tele for around your budget. Nice guitars, worth considering.


apart from in europe, where the prices (on the USA ones, at least) are crazy.


bummer on the prices in europe , a good dealer here will blow ebay prices away , you can get a lot of options and still be around 1100.00

X2 on the Tokai's , the local G & L dealer has Tokai's too and they are a real nice option for under a 1000.00
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Quote by gregs1020
+1

i haven't tried the fret kings of the ones danny mentioned, but i trust his opinion as well as dave's.

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Quote by Dave_Mc
You can get an MIJ tokai tele for around your budget. Nice guitars, worth considering.


apart from in europe, where the prices (on the USA ones, at least) are crazy.


bummer on the prices in europe , a good dealer here will blow ebay prices away , you can get a lot of options and still be around 1100.00

X2 on the Tokai's , the local G & L dealer has Tokai's too and they are a real nice option for under a 1000.00

How does a Tokai Breezysound compare to a Fender MiA (special) or G&L USA telecaster? Because I'm planning to make my first tele a quality instrument and I'm trying to figure out which is the best for under 1,000. Mostly for rock/blues, and a wide but thin (no baseball bat) neck profile would be nice.
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With the Fret Kings, what is the difference between Black and Blue ranges?

The Green and Stvdio lines on their site appear to be more 'custom shop' ranges, but how do the others compare to say the Fender MIC/MIM/MIA standards in terms of build and hardware quality?
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Quote by samuraigoomba

How does a Tokai Breezysound compare to a Fender MiA (special) or G&L USA telecaster? Because I'm planning to make my first tele a quality instrument and I'm trying to figure out which is the best for under 1,000. Mostly for rock/blues, and a wide but thin (no baseball bat) neck profile would be nice.

when you are talking

american special tele
G&L USA asat
mij tokai breezysound

it really comes down to your preference.

i would say the fender in the mix is the least desirable and prone to have the worst overall qc of the bunch. it's the lowest level tele fender usa makes.

a G&L USA is more like a high end fender, it wouldn't be on par with the special, it will blow it away.

the tokai will have it's own thing going on. better or worse than the G&L? again up to preference.

it would probably come down to sitting with each guitar and seeing which you prefer.
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Quote by afoolandaknave
With the Fret Kings, what is the difference between Black and Blue ranges?


The Black Label line is a little more introductory and basic than the Blue, in general, but that does to necessarily translate into cheaper. Some of the Black Label guitars are sig models, unique to the Black Label line, so they are pricier than models in FK's other lines. Heck, I have even seen some Green Label guitars cheaper than some Black Label ones.

In general, it helps to think of FK's Black Label as analogus to Fender's MiM guitars, and Blue Label like Other companies' MIA/MIJ guitars.

And that said, I would put Godins' better guitars on a par with the MIA Fenders, and G&L's maybe just a bit better.

But in each case, it's a matter of preferences.
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Dave_Mc
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Quote by Fumble fingers

bummer on the prices in europe , a good dealer here will blow ebay prices away , you can get a lot of options and still be around 1100.00

X2 on the Tokai's , the local G & L dealer has Tokai's too and they are a real nice option for under a 1000.00


yeah here the USA ones start at about £1200, unfortunately (the guts of $1900), and that's the bog basic ones.

i *think* proguitarshop and places like that ship them outside the USA (don't quote me on that, just they don't list them on their list of "we don't ship these brands abroad" list) and that'd probably be the way to go if you wanted one new in europe- as long as you were ok with the associated higher risk of buying from abroad. From what I hear, though, even in the UK, G&L second-hand prices are pretty cheap, so that might be another way to do it.

Quote by samuraigoomba

How does a Tokai Breezysound compare to a Fender MiA (special) or G&L USA telecaster? Because I'm planning to make my first tele a quality instrument and I'm trying to figure out which is the best for under 1,000. Mostly for rock/blues, and a wide but thin (no baseball bat) neck profile would be nice.


I haven't tried an american special, and it's ages since I tried a G&L. I'd suspect not quite as nice as a G&L. Not sure about the fender. They're normally on par with the MIJ Fenders (maybe even slightly better- or at least, normally better value and with better woods, hardware and pickups, at least compared to the non-export MIJ Fenders), if that helps.

Quote by afoolandaknave
With the Fret Kings, what is the difference between Black and Blue ranges?

The Green and Stvdio lines on their site appear to be more 'custom shop' ranges, but how do the others compare to say the Fender MIC/MIM/MIA standards in terms of build and hardware quality?


the greens and stvdios are made in the UK (I heard somewhere that they were only assembled in the UK, but I haven't corroborated that), and as such are much more expensive.

The black label range is newer and seems to have coincided with cheaper (not japanese gotoh) hardware, cheaper/more pieces of wood (on some models) and cheaper (again, on some models) pickups. And normally at no cheaper prices, sometimes even dearer prices! (The list price of the blue labels is more, but deals are available pretty much all the time which bring the prices down to the £400-£500 mark- I wouldn't pay much more than £400 for one, in other words, since you can get them at £400 every day of the week pretty much.)

I haven't tried the black labels, but considering all of that, unless there's a model which you can't get in the blue label range and which you have your heart set on (or you get it really cheap), I'd consider the blue label range to be "better" than the black label range.

Obviously guitars aren't just specs on a piece of paper, so obviously bear that in mind, but at the same time if the same manufacturer has guitars with a higher spec, normally they're better. Even if they're the same quality, they have better hardware etc. For (normally) less money.

Bear in mind I haven't tried any fenders for a few years, so maybe they've changed, but based on what I have tried, I'd rather have a blue label fretking than an MIM standard. Probably rather than even the higher-end MIMs like the classics (though their spec is closer to MIJ tokais, admittedly you're not quite comparing like with like). I haven't tried the MIC Fenders but I'm guessing they're not as good as the MIMs.

I'd probably put the Fretkings slightly below MIJ Fenders (and MIJ tokais), which tend to be considered as between MIM and MIA.

As everyone else has been saying, though, preference plays a fairly big part, too. and all these instruments have different specs and neck profiles etc., there's not much sense in getting an objectively slightly better guitar if you hate playing it!

Edit: it's probably also worth pointing out that fender will have the best resale value by some margin- something of a self-fulfilling prophecy, but you can't buck the system alone either. fret king probably has the worst.
Quote by crownegamers
I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

Quote by dspellman
The guy wears a KFC Bucket and a white mask during performances, and you're interested in the color of his pickup covers?

Last edited by Dave_Mc at Aug 19, 2013,
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Thanks for the suggestions!
There are a couple in particular i really like the sound of!
Godin Session Custom and G&L ASAT Deluxe. Both guitars sound amazing, just need to find somewhere cheap to buy one of them.. I still have my eyes open, thanks!
dannyalcatraz
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#23
You're more likely to get a good deal on a used Godin than a used G&L, partly because of G&L's association with Leo Fender, partly because they are the better brand in general. And even though they've been around a while, Godin is still trying to get recognized for what they are- damn good guitars.

I have had my hands on 3 nearly pristine used Godins this year at Guitar Center, two under $500, one under $400, each as good or better than any of the pricier used Fenders I saw. Two had been hanging on the wall for more than 9 months when I found them. In each case, I went home to consider my finances...

Apparently, I have a stalker with similar tastes in guitars, because when I went back for those poor, abandoned Godins, they were gone.
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