#1
looking at getting a Jackson flying V and looking at these two.. the JS32 is priced at a very reasonable £247 while the KVMG is an extra £414 at a price of £661. can anybody into Jacksons advise what the KVMG offers to justify the extra £400 or so spent on it? they look pretty much the same although i know the KVMG has EMG pickups. any advice appreciated! thanks, Mike
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looking at getting a Jackson flying V and looking at these two.. the JS32 is priced at a very reasonable £247 while the KVMG is an extra £414 at a price of £661. can anybody into Jacksons advise what the KVMG offers to justify the extra £400 or so spent on it? they look pretty much the same although i know the KVMG has EMG pickups. any advice appreciated! thanks, Mike


Overall better construction, materials, and hardware/electronics.

JS32
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=2910123572

KVMG
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=2914402577
#3
you can probably still pick up one of the older japanese jacksons for around that (higher) budget. I don't know which models you like best, but i think absolute guitars has an RR5 for around £700 (never bought from them, dunno what they're like).

http://shop.absolute-guitars.co.uk/jackson-rr5-guitar---rhoads-transparent-blue-247-p.asp
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#4
^ I think TS may want a Floyd Rose.

If so, absolutely get the KVMG. The FRT-X000 will last you for life as long as you set it up correctly. That's part of what you're paying for, along with the EMGs, and some other stuff (ebony fretboard, probably decent quality alder).
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The KVMG Pro is undoubtedly higher quality. Never played a good JS series Jackson.

I WOULD advise trying to find a used Japanese Pro series though. They're very nice guitars (I own one).
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^ I think TS may want a Floyd Rose.


ah right

that same shop has a couple of japanese ones with floyds too (but they're not as good value as that rhoads).
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ah right

that same shop has a couple of japanese ones with floyds too (but they're not as good value as that rhoads).


Do those ones have Jackson floyds too? Any idea how good they are/how different they are from an FRT-X000.

I'm all for Japanese guitars, don't get me wrong, just whenever a floyd is involved, I think having the best possible floyd you can get is always the most important factor above all else.

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i think they have some of the bolt-on ones which have the jackson trem, and also some of the neck-thru ones which have the frt-x000.

And I agree, having a good double-locking trem is super-important. From what I hear, both the jackson jt580LP and the frt-x000 are direct swaps for an OFR (don't quote me on that, I haven't tried the swap myself), so in either case you could argue in favour of an upgrade. But I'd say if you were talking out of the box, the frt-x000 is (IMO) superior to the jackson jt580LP, which has always felt very clunky any time I got to try it. I think the frt-x000 isn't quite as nice as a schaller-made OFR, but it does feel closer to one than the jackson trem. I could make do with the frt-x000, it's usable; I'd be annoyed if I couldn't upgrade the Jackson trem, kind of thing.
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#9
Go with the KVMG, a big plus is the neck through, gives you better tone and sustain, all around much better then the JS32
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i think they have some of the bolt-on ones which have the jackson trem, and also some of the neck-thru ones which have the frt-x000.

And I agree, having a good double-locking trem is super-important. From what I hear, both the jackson jt580LP and the frt-x000 are direct swaps for an OFR (don't quote me on that, I haven't tried the swap myself), so in either case you could argue in favour of an upgrade. But I'd say if you were talking out of the box, the frt-x000 is (IMO) superior to the jackson jt580LP, which has always felt very clunky any time I got to try it. I think the frt-x000 isn't quite as nice as a schaller-made OFR, but it does feel closer to one than the jackson trem. I could make do with the frt-x000, it's usable; I'd be annoyed if I couldn't upgrade the Jackson trem, kind of thing.



I have a japanese jackson that had the jt-580, and it was a perfect fit when I changed it for an OFR. The jt-580 is not bad, but not excellent like the OFR. I would go for the KVMG if you not willing to go used and find an old japanese : P
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i think they have some of the bolt-on ones which have the jackson trem, and also some of the neck-thru ones which have the frt-x000.

And I agree, having a good double-locking trem is super-important. From what I hear, both the jackson jt580LP and the frt-x000 are direct swaps for an OFR (don't quote me on that, I haven't tried the swap myself), so in either case you could argue in favour of an upgrade. But I'd say if you were talking out of the box, the frt-x000 is (IMO) superior to the jackson jt580LP, which has always felt very clunky any time I got to try it. I think the frt-x000 isn't quite as nice as a schaller-made OFR, but it does feel closer to one than the jackson trem. I could make do with the frt-x000, it's usable; I'd be annoyed if I couldn't upgrade the Jackson trem, kind of thing.

I don't find the JT580LP to be particularly bad - but my Gotoh FR is multiple times smoother.
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#12
^ yeah that's what i meant.

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I have a japanese jackson that had the jt-580, and it was a perfect fit when I changed it for an OFR. The jt-580 is not bad, but not excellent like the OFR.


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