#1
Hey all, I recently purchased a JCM 900 50W Hi-Gain Dual Reverb amp head second hand and was wondering if there was a cab around the $400-$500 price range you would recommend to get a Pop Punk sound. I was looking into a MesaBoogie cab because I know All Time Low used some for a while... but let me know what you think
Band Ex: All Time Low, Tonight Alive, Blink-182, Forever Ends Here, Sleeping With Sirens, Pierce The Veil, Fall Out Boy

Just for reference I would be using it with an Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus Top Pro with a Seymour Duncan SH-4 JB in the bridge and a SH-1 '59 in the neck.

Thanks!
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#2
If you can find one there, get a Harley Benton, which has the exact same speakers, is made of plywood (of the same Wood), and costs less than a half.

If you can't find that, I'd get the cheapest between the orange and the mesa.
Same speakers, same materials and stuff.

I'd go for the orange though, even if it costed a bit more.
I mean, it's orange.
Orange!

How cool would it be to show off such a thing to your friends and family and audience?
Think about that too.
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#3
The Harley Benton would be great. You'd be able to get a matching cab in your budget easily as well. That'd work well.

Also might want to have a look at Avatar. They do good stuff for pretty cheap.
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If you can find one there, get a Harley Benton, which has the exact same speakers, is made of plywood (of the same Wood), and costs less than a half.

No they are not.

The mesa V30 is different than the V30 any other company uses. It is made only for Mesa with the original V30 spec's.(it is still made in the UK also)

The mesa is also made of Marine-grade (PT) 3/4" birch.

I would take a used Mesa Recto cab over a HB any day of the week, no comparison.
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No they are not.

The mesa V30 is different than the V30 any other company uses. It is made only for Mesa with the original V30 spec's.

The mesa is also made of Marine-grade (PT) 3/4" birch.

I would take a used Mesa Recto cab over a HB any day of the week, no comparison.


This.

Also Orange cabs are fantastic. I have a Bogner 4x12 that I love beyond measure and you cna't go far wrong with Framus.

Don't get a plywood cab, you'll thank us later!
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No they are not.

The mesa V30 is different than the V30 any other company uses. It is made only for Mesa with the original V30 spec's.(it is still made in the UK also)

The mesa is also made of Marine-grade (PT) 3/4" birch.

I would take a used Mesa Recto cab over a HB any day of the week, no comparison.


Are they not?

Aww, sorry about that, the "V30" written on the mesa site tricked me.
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If you can find one there, get a Harley Benton, which has the exact same speakers, is made of plywood (of the same Wood), and costs less than a half.

If you can't find that, I'd get the cheapest between the orange and the mesa.
Same speakers, same materials and stuff.

I'd go for the orange though, even if it costed a bit more.
I mean, it's orange.
Orange!

How cool would it be to show off such a thing to your friends and family and audience?
Think about that too.

Orange and mesa cabs might have the same speakers, and be made of the same raw materials - but they certainly sound different.
Cab construction definitely has an impact on tone.

On a budget the harley benton is very hard to beat. But orange and mesa cabs (for instance) are better.
Apart from the big brands (marshall, mesa, orange etc) check out avatar cabs if you are in the us. They are great value over there
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Are they not?

Aww, sorry about that, the "V30" written on the mesa site tricked me.

Yeah, it is some confusing shite.

Celestion still makes the "original" V30 for only Mesa (I don't know the reasoning other than Mesa buys a lot and Celestion wants the money). These speakers are not as harsh in the upper mids like the normal V30 that Orange/Marshall/ect use.

Oh and one more to confuse you, Marshall (and a few others) sometimes use the V30L which is slightly different than the mesa V30 and the standard V30
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#9
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Don't get a plywood cab, you'll thank us later!


wut? the mesa and orange cabs are plywood too for 95% (that statistic might be made up) of guitar tones you actively want a plywood cabinet.

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No they are not.

The mesa V30 is different than the V30 any other company uses. It is made only for Mesa with the original V30 spec's.(it is still made in the UK also)

The mesa is also made of Marine-grade (PT) 3/4" birch.

I would take a used Mesa Recto cab over a HB any day of the week, no comparison.


agreed.

the harley benton (especially in europe, where mesa prices etc. are crazy) is nigh-on impossible to beat for the money. However, if you're willing to spend more, you can get better cabs. That's not to say the HB is bad- I'd say it's a decent cab, it's not rubbish or anything like that. But you can do better if you're willing to spend more.
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#10
not too sure where you are at, but i use orange cabs mainly. i'd accept an avatar contemporary design though and save some cash and get speakers that i want (i don't dig on the V30's myself).

if you have some time and patience then you can score some real deals on the secondary market.
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Don't get a plywood cab, you'll thank us later!


Nothing wrong with plywood, you're probably thinking of MDF.

**** MDF. So hard.

Anyway TS, any of the usual suspects will work. Orange, Mesa, Marshall (either the 1936V or 1960AV/BV. The "V" at the end is the important distinction), Avatar (not sure where in the world you're located).

There are also cabs that are not the usual suspects, which can be found for INSANE prices considering how good they are. These mainly consist of Line 6 (Vetta or Spider Valve cabs), and Randall (not very familiar, just check the particular model to see).
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#12
In my experience, Krank rev 4x12 cabs are really hard to beat. I bought one over mesa, orange, marshall
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#13
yeah leave mdf to Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen

^ bit of a weird choice on the 1" speakers, though. No wonder Krank went out of business

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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#14
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll be sure to research a lot of these. As for my location I'm in the USA, Washington state
#15
Look here good prices on used cabs www.guitarcenter.com/usedgear
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#16
I use a Avatar contemporary 1x12 with a Hellatone 60. Soon i'll be upgrading to a 2x12 and then maybe a 4x12. For the money you really can't do much better, especially for the type of music you wish to play.
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yeah leave mdf to Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen

^ bit of a weird choice on the 1" speakers, though. No wonder Krank went out of business

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#18
avatar or spawl.
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#19
Great suggestions here. I'll throw another into the mix. White Box Engineering.

I got their Modern 212 a few months ago and it sounds phenomenal. The price is great as well. They build and ship very quickly.
#20
Check out Zilla as well. Great cabs.
Bogner Oversize 212, maybe.

Also, rather buy a really good 212 than a mid-range 412, in my opinion.
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No they are not.

The mesa V30 is different than the V30 any other company uses. It is made only for Mesa with the original V30 spec's.(it is still made in the UK also)

The mesa is also made of Marine-grade (PT) 3/4" birch.

I would take a used Mesa Recto cab over a HB any day of the week, no comparison.

This might be a bit of a stupid question but I'm new to this, would a Mesa Boogie Mini-Recto 1X12 Rectifier Straight Cab provide me with the same sound?
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This might be a bit of a stupid question but I'm new to this, would a Mesa Boogie Mini-Recto 1X12 Rectifier Straight Cab provide me with the same sound?

No, it will be very similar but lack the depth/fullness that a 2x12 or 4x12 recto cab has
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No, it will be very similar but lack the depth that a 2x12 or 4x12 recto cab has

So if I were to get a Mesa/Boogie 2x12 Rectifier Cabinet - 2x12" Horizontal would it be closer?
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So if I were to get a Mesa/Boogie 2x12 Rectifier Cabinet - 2x12" Horizontal would it be closer?

Or vertical is what I'd be going for I guess, sorry.
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So if I were to get a Mesa/Boogie 2x12 Rectifier Cabinet - 2x12" Horizontal would it be closer?

Yes it will be much closer, but only a 4x12 sounds like a 4x12
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Yes it will be much closer, but only a 4x12 sounds like a 4x12

Ahaha alright I gotcha. Thank you for the help! I believe you helped me when picking out pickups too...
#29
Hey guys, I've noticed All Time Low has been using Egnater now instead of Mesa/Boogie and a lot of Egnater stuff is on sale on Musician's Friend right now. Is there one that would get a sound like this with my Marshall JCM 900 50W Hi Gain Dual Reverb you would suggest that is a 2x12? I don't really need a 4x12 right now and would like to save the money.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/egnater-vn-412-4x12-guitar-speaker-cabinet/h72386000001000?CJAID=10381297&CJPID=2502662
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#31
Or would an Egnater Tourmaster 212X 2x12 be a viable option for Pop Punk?
#32
I was hoping to stack the head on the cab and see as my head is about 28" long I couldn't really put it on something like a Mesa/Boogie Mini Rectifier Cabinet - 1x12" or else I'd just get that.
#34
There is a Mesa Recto 4x12 on the www.guitarcenter.com/usedgear section for $399. I would grab it if I were you
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There is a Mesa Recto 4x12 on the www.guitarcenter.com/usedgear section for $399. I would grab it if I were you

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#36
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You're a savior. I'll order this up as soon as I get off work assuming its still there.

Just type mesa boogie in the search bar on the right
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#38
^ not really, but which one(s) are you looking at? They have (might be discontinued) a UK-made range with good eminence speakers which I'm guessing were at least decent, and a cheaper chinese(?)-made range with less good speakers which I'm guessing is not so good (but which may still be alright with a speaker swap, if they're plywood).
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