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Hi all. This is my 4th year playing, and I'm currently using an Ibanez S570dxqm through a Fender Frontman 25R. My problem is that I hate the sound coming through my amp. I've tried fiddling with settings, but I'm not happy with the sound at all. I play almost exclusively Metallica, with a little bit of iron Maiden, Foo fighters and Jimi Hendrix thrown in. I just play in my bedroom, no live performances except at the school talent shows. I have a budget of $500, but I really don't know if I should spend it on new pickups, because of the bad stock pickups, a new amp, or an effects pedal. Any help would be really appreciated, thanks in advance.
#2
A better amp is always the best place to start.

For a metal practice amp Peavey Vypyr is usually the main recommendation.
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Quote by GaryBillington
A better amp is always the best place to start.


agreed. especially when you already have a decent guitar.

Now, ibanez stock pickups aren't great and once you have a good amp you may well want to upgrade the pickups too. But yeah, amp first. Preferably tube if you don't have to play at whisper volume all the time.
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#4
Thanks a lot guys, I'll have a look at the Peavey amp. Just wondering, what is a tube amp? Are they the really short and long ones, or just a different way the amps are made?
#5
No relation to the shape, tube amps use valves to amplify your signal, unlike solid state amps which use transistors. Both come in "head" form, which is the short and long ones you mentioned.

It'd be worth looking at Blackstar as well as Peavey, they make some nice amps. The HT5 would do you well. If you're concerned about "true" valve tone you might look at an HT20 instead, though that will be loud!
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No relation to the shape, tube amps use valves to amplify your signal, unlike solid state amps which use transistors. Both come in "head" form, which is the short and long ones you mentioned.

It'd be worth looking at Blackstar as well as Peavey, they make some nice amps. The HT5 would do you well. If you're concerned about "true" valve tone you might look at an HT20 instead, though that will be loud!


Awesome, thanks a lot. I'll definitely have a look at the BlackStar amps as well, pretty sure I saw some in my local music shop. Don't need anything too loud, so I think the HT-5 will be fine. Cheers everyone
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if you're concerned about "true valve tone" it'd probably make more sense to step away from the blackstar HT series since they're hybrids
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if you're concerned about "true valve tone" it'd probably make more sense to step away from the blackstar HT series since they're hybrids


This.

HT 5 doesnt do metal.

Yeah i said it.
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if that is true (I still haven't tried one ), that's kinda hilarious

"we need to add SS guff so we can do teh brootz on a budget"

"shouldn't we make sure it can actually do teh brootz?"

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#10
Your current guitar is actually rather good and the most lacking thing in your setup is definitely the amplifier. Buy a new amp, and at $500 make it a valve/tube amp. Amps can generally be split into two categories: tube and solid state. Although tone is a subjective topic, I and many others on this forum would recommend you buy a fully tube amplifier to make the best improvement to your sound. Just know that not all amps are equal and sound quality > loudness .
#11
If anything I'd recommend checking out

- a used Peavey JSX combo (probably tough to find for <$500)

- a Peavey Ultra Combo (Guitarcenter.com has a used one for $219),

- a Peavey XXX Combo. (Guitarcenter.com has one for 399.99)

These are all pretty damn versatile with 3 channels, good cleans, lower gain crunch channel, and a ultra channel for EXTRA high gain stuff. All of these are tube as well.

Any of these would give you an amazing boost in tone quality over the Frontman 25r.

Did you want to stick with a combo amp, or a half stack? All the amps I've mentioned are available in a head version too.
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