#1
I know threads like this are done to death, sorry, I'm just really really torn here.

I'm not a beginner guitarist, I've been playing for 10 years now, I started when I was 12 and have tried my best to self teach ever since. I basically understand that I play at the level of someone who has been playing for 4 - 5 years.

I've been kind of bumbling through intro level guitars for a decade now. I started with an Epiphone Les Paul Jr, it broke and I bought a Douglas Gravity from rondomusic. I loved that guitar and it's a workhorse. I played, gigged, and recorded the crap out of that thing. But it's time to upgrade. I know it's time to upgrade. Plus, I want more tonal variety when it comes to playing. Also, my band started writing songs in a different tuning, it'd be nice to stop being the only band member tuning between songs.

I play a couple different genres of music, my band is post-hardcore with a lot of post-rock influence, I love playing soem glassjAw, letlive, and alexisonfire. I also want to start a pop oriented rock band. The guitars I've been looking at are:

Agile AL-3010se:
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a tiny bit more expensive, the Fender Modern Player Marauder:
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and ibanez art100:
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and finally an epiphone wilshire phant-o-matic:
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I play through a fender ultimate chorus 212 amp. I use a variety of digitech/boss pedals. It's a big part of my playing style.


I know it ultimately comes down to what I want. I was just wondering if anyone had experience with any of these guitars or which one you would get if you were in the same scenario.

thanks! have a great day!
#2
the links for the guitars wound up being forbidden, so I guess you'd have to google it :p
#3
Of the guitars you selected?

I think Epiphone does good budget guitars, but I don't know that one.

Ibanez usually can't be outdone from delivery of quality in guitars under $500, but Agile is one company that can and does. I'd buy that Agile over that Ibanez.

(In both Ibanez and Epiphones of that price range, I much prefer their semihollows.)

I would go for the Fender, though- that neck pickup is some kind of P90 or oversized singlecoil, so it would give you a different tonal palette than the others on your list.

However, you might also consider:

DZPL Strettavita
http://deanzelinsky.com/collections/strettavita/products/strettavita-z-glide-bt-custom
http://deanzelinsky.com/collections/strettavita/products/strettavita-z-glide-bt

Godin Redline HB
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/godin-redline-hb-electric-guitar/620135000872422?source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CNLwldC8pbkCFSlo7AodD1kAdA&kwid=productads-plaid%255E57304610227-sku%255E620135000872422@ADL4MF-adType%255EPLA-device%255Et-adid%255E30430023627

Godin Redline III
http://www.guitarasaur.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=75&product_id=3386

Godin Velocity
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Godin-Performance-Velocity-Electric-Guitar-w-Godin-Carrying-Case-PRE-OWNED/380652678081?_trksid=p2047675.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.CATEGORY%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D17214%26meid%3D935893272050856594%26pid%3D100009%26prg%3D8039%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D261249225124%26

Malden Karma
http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-MALDEN-KARMA-FLAME-TOP-SUNBURST-ELECTRIC-109048847-i3222819.gc

Parker P38
http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-PARKER-FLY-P38-108756398-i3008210.gc

Reverend Jetstream
http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/2012a09a06reverend/reverend

Reverend Daredevil
http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-REVEREND-DAREDEVIL-108849500-i3084133.gc
OR
http://elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-17637.htm

(Some of those other suggestions are new, some are used, some are b-stock.)
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Aug 30, 2013,
#4
Gretsch Electromatic series Pro Jet is worth a look at that price point as well.
#5
Definitely!

I had a shot at 2 virtually mint used Electromatics a few years ago and they were stunningly good. Still kicking myself.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#6
One comment regarding the Agile:

If I were buying, I'd probably lean toward the "bit more money" AL-3100 or 3000 (non-SE versions). I think they're the 3110 and the 3001 now, due partly to the upgrades. They come with a graphtech nut, Graphtech bridge with String Saver Saddles, ebony fretboard, real MOP or abalone inlays and hand-filed stainless steel frets for $399. You also get the triple binding on headstock and body (the SE has single binding on headstock and body).

I'd put either at an outstanding value, however.
#7
One last thing -- since you're getting into alternate tunings, you might take the time to find and try an older Variax 500 or 600. Should be in the $350-400 range (the newer JTVs are $1200-1400).

No pickups on these older puppies (other than the piezo that powers the Variax modeling) and the guitars are modeled. The basics are covered very well (good LP, Strat, tele) with special mention for the Jazzbox and 335-style guitars.

What's *really* cool, however, is that those guitars (this does not apply to a Variax 300) have alternate tunings built in, and you can downtune a full octave if you need to (bass guitar range) or anything in between, and the tension on the strings never changes.

There are built-in tunings for Blues G, DADGAD, all that, as well as some down tunings, and you can edit those settings on the guitar by plugging it into your computer.

I've often used the alternate tuning feature when, for example, I've learned a song in the original key and the singer can't hit the high notes and needs everyone to drop a full step or two. I just rotate the dial. I play the song exactly as I've learned it, but what comes out of the amp is two steps down; no difference in tension, etc. and no floppy strings or "cheese-cutter" bends.
#8
I would recommend looking for a used guitar.The state of the economy right now is forcing a lot of people to sell their stuff.Plus,used guitars will often be set up by a pro,have upgraded parts,and have problems or issues worked out.You just need to check it out thoroughly to make sure your not buying someone else's problems.
#10
You could always go with a Squier Classic Vibe 60's Strat or Tele. Both are far superior to Fender's MIM Standards and cost only $380.00 brand new .
#11
I was actually really interested in saving another month or so more and widening my options. I have been oogling Squier Classic vibe's for the better part of a year now. And I've always wanted a PRS in some capacity. Also, those gretsch guitars look beautiful. I like the idea of being able to just go to a guitar store and try things out for myself, used and new. My local guitar center just got a gorgeous epiphone firebird with 3 humbuckers.

I think I'm going to just save a little more until I have like 700 - 800 at my disposal. I do love supporting rondomusic and Agile guitars will probably always be there, though I have noticed their price crawl upwards.

Thank you everyone for all of your help and resources This was actually extremely helpful.
#12
Quote by Boreesimo
Gretsch Electromatic series Pro Jet is worth a look at that price point as well.

I have an Electromatic G5422TDC and it's a fantastic bit of kit.