BoStros
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#1
Hey guys, for anyone willing to help, I'm an intermediate player looking for a new amp to help me personalize, enhance and be more versatile with my sound.

My specs are basically:
Must be able to provide thick rhythm sounds for metal
High attack, high gain, sharp sounds for lead (but not obnoxious)
Good for cleans as well
Playable and adjustable for a church setting as well

I don't know if that helps much. I can answer any other questions if needed. I could go on and on about different sounds I love and my favorite tone qualities and what-not but honestly, I don't have a clue what to look for in the actual equipment world.

I have a beautiful white Synyster Gates Special (dont go calling me a fanboy... i loved its design) electric guitar with Seymour Duncan SH-8s and I play through a Fender mustang 2 digital amp. Having to go on the computer to change sounds to the extent that the fender software will let me gets old FAST. I'm ready learn how manually manipulate my sound, play around and make it my own. Versatile is the word. And I know it's a pretty typical requirement.

Price wise I can probably do up to 1000 bucks. I'll have to save anyways though so if it's worth it, maybe more. I'd honestly rarer not have to buy pedals but I'll take as many opinions as I can get. Been really looking at a head or a half-stack.

Appreciate your help! - John
Robbgnarly
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#2
do you want a combo or head and cab?

where are you located?

new or used?

answer these questions and we can help better. until then, marshall JCM2000 DSL 50/100 and a marshall 1960 cab or a Peavey JSX an a cab

Peavey Vypyr tube 60/120 combo might work for you also if you want modeling
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I'm very happy with my Bogner Alchemist 112. Great all rounder and has delay and reverb built in. You need a pedal to give a little extra for a good biting lead sound but other than that, it's really great.
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gay4slipknot
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#4
Blackstar series one
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Quote by gay4slipknot
Blackstar series one

Pretty sure that is out of budget even used and then TS will need a cab also.

Besides that I would not buy a Blackstar
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
BoStros
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Quote by Robbgnarly
do you want a combo or head and cab?

where are you located?

new or used?



Makes no difference to me as long as it's within price range. Anything I should consider between the two? Other than buying them separately?

Houston, Texas

Again, no difference. I've definitely never minded a good used product for it's cheaper price, and if that's gonna be the difference maker, that's fine by me.
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look here www.guitarcenter.com/usedgear they have a huge selection of used gear and a 30 day return policy. You can pickup a Marshall JCM2000 DSL head for $500-$600 and you can get a Marshall 1960 cab for $350 or a Mesa Recto 4x12 for $400ish all day long
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2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
DeanoM50810
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#8
My vote goes for either a new Line 6 DT25 combo or a used DT50. The clean sounds (there's a choice of Fender or Vox styles) should do you well for church playing (you can always change the presets if you want anyway using a MIDI cable and a laptop), the metal sounds are pretty damn good too (it took some configuring to get them, but it was more than worth it).
gay4slipknot
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#9
Sorry im british and was thinking you had £1000, the JCM2000 and Peavey JSX were good shouts, and personally I think Blackstar's look great and have a very metal sound but each to their own.

If you're looking for a 30-100W high gain amp with a clean and dirty channel there's just so many to choose from on the market it's pointless asking people on here for their preference, the two ways you should be going about this is picking your favourite guitarists tone and seeing what amps they use and what similar series amps are made by that brand that best suits your needs.... or you go down to your LGS and spend a day trying them out.
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BoStros
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#10
Thank you guys! I'm looking into all if these!!


Quote by gay4slipknot
Sorry im british and was thinking you had £1000, the JCM2000 and Peavey JSX were good shouts, and personally I think Blackstar's look great and have a very metal sound but each to their own.

If you're looking for a 30-100W high gain amp with a clean and dirty channel there's just so many to choose from on the market it's pointless asking people on here for their preference, the two ways you should be going about this is picking your favourite guitarists tone and seeing what amps they use and what similar series amps are made by that brand that best suits your needs.... or you go down to your LGS and spend a day trying them out.


I've been doing exactly that on top of everyone's help. For tone my favorites are probably Syn Gates (his own hellwin series, and a wide variety of stuff), Adam Dutkiewicks (Laney Ironheart head and some pedals for current touring), John Peteucci (haven't checked), and Marty Friedman (ESPECIALLY his cleans. Amazing but I have not check on his stuff yet). Honestly, the only thing about looking at artists though for me is they typically have a little more money than me, and I don't know what they're just endorsing or what they actually use.
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Robbgnarly
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If you like JP he uses a Mesa Mark V which is $2000+. You can find Mesa Mark IV combos for $1000ish from time to time and they are awesome
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2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
BoStros
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Quote by Robbgnarly
If you like JP he uses a Mesa Mark V which is $2000+. You can find Mesa Mark IV combos for $1000ish from time to time and they are awesome


Been look through videos/demos on this and there hasn't been a sound I didn't like come out of it so far. The distortion sounds impressive as well as the lead. Sounds like the total package.
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Quote by BoStros
Been look through videos/demos on this and there hasn't been a sound I didn't like come out of it so far. The distortion sounds impressive as well as the lead. Sounds like the total package.

They are amazing, even the Mark III is really nice and versitile
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2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
BoStros
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Quote by Robbgnarly
They are amazing, even the Mark III is really nice and versitile


Found one used for $900...not bad at all... What's the deal with blue stripe, red stripe, purple stripe, etc. ?
gay4slipknot
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Every heard of a site called uberproaudio, it gives a gear listing of popular musicians and i've found pretty reliable on actually use, not just endorsement. If you like Avenged Sevenfold why not try Zackys head, JCA100H, very affordable and loads of gain on tap and everyone on here seems to recommend Jet City for mid budget all tube
>Gibson & Schecter Guitars
>Orange Amps
>And some neighbours to piss off
BoStros
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#19
Quote by Ippon
I saw one close for $660 something on eBay recently. Patience is key unless you can't postpone gratification.


Ohh, I've got plenty of time and patience for this. Prolly gonna push for a Mark IV though hopefully...maybe even wait longer and find another Mark V for 1200ish (saw one on Craigslist)