#1
It's just a practice amp and I got my eye on

Roland Cube 40XL
Marshall MG 30 DFX or 50w
Peavey Vypyr 30
Fender Mustang II 40 watt

I play mostly some classic tunes like Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, and guns n roses and I'm just starting out. Also from the 4 amps that I stated, disregarding their prices, what do you think? Are they good, bad, or okay for a practice amp?
#2
Vox VT. Any of those would probably do pretty much the same things and work ok for you. Have you tried any of those? Have you tried the lil Yamaha tube amps?
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#3
Avoid the Marshall MG. The other ones should be pretty alright.

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Have you tried any of those? Have you tried the lil Yamaha tube amps?


You meant the THR's? They are not tube amps, just solid state combos that look like lunchbox tube heads.
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Quote by godgrinder
Avoid the Marshall MG. The other ones should be pretty alright.


You meant the THR's? They are not tube amps, just solid state combos that look like lunchbox tube heads.

Kudos to Yamaha then cause those amps sound really good. If you're just jamming in your bedroom it'd be perfect.
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#5
Forget the MG, its better off as a paper weight
Vox VT is good choice.
Peavey Vypyr is also good.
Used to have a Vox VT, loved it, had to sell it for moving money last year.
Just got a Vypyr 30 about a week ago. Love it.
It does the high gain thing better than the Vox VT IMO.
Has a Plexi setting that nails a lot of the classic rock sounds.
#6
+1 on the vox valvetronix
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#7
I'd go with the vypr. it's got the best ways of editing stuff and accessing it. Personally, the only other amp I can speak against on the list is the mustang, since it doesn't have the best way of editing sounds (limited parameters for modulation, no mid knob for your EQ).
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#8
Vypyr 30. None of the others will give you a 12" speaker, and I think that's a more important feature than a modeling amp that is "more suited for" a certain sound.

I've owned 3 Vypyrs and I have absolutely no idea why people try to shoehorn them as metal amps, other than just to have a way to push them into a category (which is obviously the opposite of the purpose of a modeling amp in the first place).

The Fender Mustang I + II don't even have 3 band EQs. Garbage for that reason IMO. The III is a cool amp though.
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#9
Go for Blackstar HT-5.

I went through Mustang, MGCFX, iPad jam up etc...
It's not something you can compare on youtube.
I didnt want to believe ppl advising me this, and now i regret it.

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#11
My lead guitarist bought a blackstar ht5r......holy shit does that thing sound awesome!! We have the ht100´s for gigging and play Classic rock (acdc, Zep, greenday, guns and so on) so it´s got the tone your looking for

... we started out with vox VT series...and trust me they really are a great amp...but you grow tired of the modeling sound after a while and just end up wasting money when you have to sell it 6 months later for a Blackstar ;-)
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#12
Quote by Blackst4r
My lead guitarist bought a blackstar ht5r......holy shit does that thing sound awesome!! We have the ht100´s for gigging and play Classic rock (acdc, Zep, greenday, guns and so on) so it´s got the tone your looking for

... we started out with vox VT series...and trust me they really are a great amp...but you grow tired of the modeling sound after a while and just end up wasting money when you have to sell it 6 months later for a Blackstar ;-)


For the price of a HT5 combo you could almost buy a 6505+ 112. And most of the distortion on the HT series come from solid state components.
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#13
Quote by godgrinder
For the price of a HT5 combo you could almost buy a 6505+ 112. And most of the distortion on the HT series come from solid state components.


...not really....distortion is from the tubes.....

"The HT-5 preamplifier is based on the HT-Dual pedal. As is the case in the
HT-Dual, we use solid-state circuits to provide "pre-gain" before the ECC83
valve. The diodes are part of this "pre-gain circuit" and are used to limit
the signal level being driven into the valve and hence maintain the correct
operating conditions for the valve in this application.

Most importantly, the valve is the last amplification (and clipping) device
in the signal chain and the overall gain structure is designed such that the
compression and harmonics you hear are generated solely from the valve
itself

and as for solid state Components....if you have just one pedal infront of your amp .....you´ve done exactly the same as Blackstar....even worse if you have it in the loop?!
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#14
^ wow you must be using some badass newfangled pedals there. what pedal do you have that converts a genuinely-all-tube amp's phase inverter to solid state?



EDIT: also I'm pretty sure that marketing spiel by blackstar has been laughed out of court debunked here before now.

Quote by godgrinder
For the price of a HT5 combo you could almost buy a 6505+ 112. And most of the distortion on the HT series come from solid state components.


I dunno about "almost all", but a fair bit of it. And a load of the amplification. And the phase inverter.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#15
OP is looking for practice amp not 100W monster. Who cares how the sound is being made, as long as its good.
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#16
^ wow you must be using some badass newfangled pedals there. what pedal do you have that converts a genuinely-all-tube amp's phase inverter to solid state?



EDIT: also I'm pretty sure that marketing spiel by blackstar has been laughed out of court debunked here before now.

...none....the au7 does that quite well in my HTV-100

...and that´s still not what I meant....

.....they guys looking for a good practice amp, for Classic rock...and that´s what I suggested......but every purist out there with an opinion seems to Believe that the only way to go is a handwired marshall from 1972.....and that´s not what he´s asking for
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#17
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...none....the au7 does that quite well in my HTV-100

...and that´s still not what I meant....

.....they guys looking for a good practice amp, for Classic rock...and that´s what I suggested......but every purist out there with an opinion seems to Believe that the only way to go is a handwired marshall from 1972.....and that´s not what he´s asking for



No, actually pretty well everyone here suggested a modeling amp. They are perfectly fine for practice and cheaper than Blackstar, and IMO sound about as good depending on the amp. You also have the added benefit of not needing to change any tubes or such silliness like that.
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#18
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(a) ...none....the au7 does that quite well in my HTV-100

(b) ...and that´s still not what I meant....

(c) .....they guys looking for a good practice amp, for Classic rock...and that´s what I suggested......but every purist out there with an opinion seems to Believe that the only way to go is a handwired marshall from 1972.....and that´s not what he´s asking for


(a) nice try, we were talking about the ht5

(b) what did you mean, then?

(c) no-one suggested a handwired marshall from 1972
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#19
I tried the marshall mg one and I can't get the right sound out of it, and I didn't like the distortion the marshall mg gave me, I haven't tried the other ones yet though
#20
TS, you should really consider the Peavey Vypyr. As far as the cheaper modeling amps go, you can't beat the Vypyr 30.
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