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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/26/atheism-to-be-taught-irish-schoolchildren

In a historic move that will cheer Richard Dawkins, atheists in Ireland have secured the right to teach the republic's primary schoolchildren that God doesn't exist.

The first ever atheist curriculum for thousands of primary-school pupils in Ireland has been drawn up by Atheist Ireland in an education system that the Catholic church hierarchy has traditionally dominated.

The class of September 2014 will be reading texts such as Dawkins' The Magic of Reality, his book aimed at children, as well as other material at four different primary levels, according to Atheist Ireland.

Up to 16,000 primary schoolchildren who attend the fast-growing non-denominational Irish school sector will receive direct tuition on atheism as part of their basic introduction course to ethics and belief systems.


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"Okay class, go to your seats. Today, we will be discussing Atheism.

...

There is no God.

Alright, see you next week, kids!"

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#5
Day 1 of class: God doesn't exist.

Day 2: Fractions!

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"Okay class, go to your seats. Today, we will be discussing Atheism.

...

There is no God.

Alright, see you next week, kids!"


Damn you
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Jane Donnelly, a member of Atheist Ireland and a parent of two children in an Irish secondary school, welcomed the creation of an atheism alternative for Irish pupils.

"I opted my two girls out of religious education classes and they were told to go to the library and find a philosophy book to read during RE instead. The range of philosophy books was very limited so I sent them into school each day with a copy of Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion for them to read."


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#7
Absolutely stupid. Atheism should be a unit in an RE course. This is just as bad as teaching one specific religion in school. Too far.
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#8
Hmm, I don't know how to feel about this being in public schools. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are they just teaching a course on it, or is it going to be considered the truthful stance around which other religious philosophies contradict? I'm personally all for teaching more people about it though. The truth is tough to ignore once you've been introduced. /my bias
#9
Also isn't having a society for atheism kind of like having a party for anarchy?
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Absolutely stupid. Atheism should be a unit in an RE course. This is just as bad as teaching one specific religion in school. Too far.

I like this. Teach all the religions and let the kids pick the one that sounds least nutty.
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Also isn't having a society for atheism kind of like having a party for anarchy?

Um, no?
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Also isn't having a society for atheism kind of like having a party for anarchy?


no
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Um, no?
It just seems totally unecessary. Atheism is about the absence of a God. It's a concept everyone knows about.
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#14
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It just seems totally unecessary. Atheism is about the absence of a God. It's a concept everyone knows about.


But it's an opportunity to meet other people and discuss it.

Same as any other group. It's not like they hold service at Christian groups.
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It just seems totally unecessary. Atheism is about the absence of a God. It's a concept everyone knows about.


This totally. I can just see it turning into an anti-religion thing instead of a pro-absence thing.
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#16
Either spend time talking about this viewpoint and the core beliefs of popular religious movements or don't talk about them at all and leave it out of the school system.
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I like this. Teach all the religions and let the kids pick the one that sounds least nutty.

when you introduce them to all of em at the same time it's probably easier for the wee little mind to recognize that it's all trash
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It just seems totally unecessary. Atheism is about the absence of a God. It's a concept everyone knows about.

Yeah true, but there's a lot of misconceptions about philosophies about how to come to that conclusion and even the people who believe that. I'm kind of astounded it got into public schools. I would figure they would just have a chapter on it in a book or something. Like I said, I'm not necessarily all for this, but I can see some benefits. I'd like to read a better breakdown of how the course works/is taught.
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when you introduce them to all of em at the same time it's probably easier for the wee little mind to recognize that it's all trash

Exactly.

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Remember that this is PRIMARY school. It's absolutely fine to teach schoolchildren about what some people believe in, but certainly not young kids who might find it difficult to discern a lesson on hypothetical things from their other, more factual classes like maths and such.
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Either spend time talking about this viewpoint and the core beliefs of popular religious movements or don't talk about them at all and leave it out of the school system.

This.
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when you introduce them to all of em at the same time it's probably easier for the wee little mind to recognize that it's all trash


heh, this should definitely be the way to go
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#23
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Remember that this is PRIMARY school. It's absolutely fine to teach schoolchildren about what some people believe in, but certainly not young kids who might find it difficult to discern a lesson on hypothetical things from their other, more factual classes like maths and such.


This is also true. Nothing wrong with a high school World Religions course, but teaching little kids about anything they're not really going to get that it's just something people believe and not fact.
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Religious atheists are the most annoying people. I prefer non-religious atheists.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#28
No belief system should be taught in schools, I hated being thought religion in school then getting in trouble for contradicting the teacher and asking questions, I only did me communion and conformation for the money.
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Religious atheists are the most annoying people. I prefer non-religious atheists.

What's a religious atheist?
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What's a religious atheist?


I assume he means people who are really into the fact that they are atheists, people who try to spread the word, etc.
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What's a religious atheist?

The type whose treats their atheism as a religion. Particularly those who would argue enthusiastically if a Christian or the like ever implied that atheism was a religion.
We don't need zealots on the a-train.
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#32
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Religious atheists are the most annoying people. I prefer non-religious atheists.


^^

I despise people who have to point out their atheism at every opportunity.
#33
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The type whose treats their atheism as a religion. Particularly those who would argue enthusiastically if a Christian or the like ever implied that atheism was a religion.
We don't need zealots on the a-train.


The type whose treats their atheism as a religion, misunderstood atheism.
#34
Yeah they're just as annoying as anyone who tries to spread their religion around, except sometimes worse depending on the level of I-think-I'm-special and smugness they have
#35
On the real I'd have to see the curriculum before deciding whether this is decent or not. This bit just sounds like something that should happen anyway
will receive direct tuition on atheism as part of their basic introduction course to ethics and belief systems.
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^thing is, even removed from a curriculum, it's kind of a given. even young kids are aware that there are athiests (even if they don't have the word for it), and teachers likely always mention it.

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I assume he means people who are really into the fact that they are atheists, people who try to spread the word, etc.

gnostic athiests, basically. they "know" there is no god.

perfect logic, eh?
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The type whose treats their atheism as a religion. Particularly those who would argue enthusiastically if a Christian or the like ever implied that atheism was a religion.
We don't need zealots on the a-train.

Oh yea I hate those guys they're asshats.
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Absolutely stupid. Atheism should be a unit in an RE course. This is just as bad as teaching one specific religion in school. Too far.

Mhmmm. It's just damn silly.

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On the real I'd have to see the curriculum before deciding whether this is decent or not. This bit just sounds like something that should happen anyway

Why? Why exactly should Atheism be taught separately from religion? It is, like it or not, a form of belief akin to religion, in that most gnostic Atheists have a form of faith (read: something they cannot prove with 100% certainty) in the idea that there is no god.
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Absolutely stupid. Atheism should be a unit in an RE course. This is just as bad as teaching one specific religion in school. Too far.


This

They should teach a basic introduction to all the Major religions (Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Ect.)

And then they should allow (but not require) students to take classes that provide a more in depth examination of the beliefs of a specific religion, according to that student's interests, Athesism included.
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