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just some noob questions really. i recently bought myself a martin drs2 electro acoustic. i paid around 900 euro for it and it sounds absolutely gorgeous with a beautiful tone and a really punchy bass on the lower frets.
it has a solid sitka spruce top and solid sapele back and sides which i understand is basically like mahogany.
in the shop to me it sounded better than much more expensive guitars and thats my real puzzlement is what could possibly be so different about other guitars to justify them being 3,4 or more times as expensive as this? because to me the only improvement in these more pricey guitars seems to be in the decorations and maybe pickups and possibly made from rarer types of wood.
my only dissappointment with my drs2 is that i was going to downtune every string a step but with this one it seems to get too boomy and the tone isnt as nice. does neck tension affect the tone? im guessing so.
my other acoustic a tanglewood rosewood reserve folk guitar (a smaller parlor guitar) i did this downtuning malarkey and put on some thicker medium strings and it sounded better than ever and was never boomy, why would this be? i though a dreadnought with its larger body would be better suited for lower frequencies. anyway my rant is finally over so please say whatever you want.
#2
i have no problems doing that with my D15M. i would suspect that it has a lot to do with the extra rigid neck that the "Road Series" guitars use.
try tuning just a half step down and keep the lights...preferably a Phosphor bronze set to further mellow it's sound.
oh...and happy new guitar day...did you take some guitar porn pics for us????
need more gear and a lot more talent(courtesytuxs)
Last edited by stepchildusmc at Oct 6, 2013,
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my other acoustic a tanglewood rosewood reserve folk guitar (a smaller parlor guitar) i did this downtuning malarkey and put on some thicker medium strings and it sounded better than ever and was never boomy, why would this be? i though a dreadnought with its larger body would be better suited for lower frequencies. anyway my rant is finally over so please say whatever you want.
Well, dreadnoughts re notoriously boomy in the first place, and Martins are notorious for a healthy bottom end. It's part of their corporate sonic philosophy.

Neck tension, (or overall string tension), obviously drops when you down tune any guitar.

Two things here. If your guitar's action is nice and low, strings are at lower tension already, and you tend to lose control in the bass when you tune down. I guess "sloppy" is the best adjective.

If the guitar is dull, I'd suggest a set of brass strings, (an 80/20 alloy, rather than phosphor bronze). PB is warmer, but could perhaps be interpreted as "duller" by some players.

You might try a set of "brass" mediums, (.013 to .056). If you give this a shot, remember brass strings are quite bright when brand new. My description is "pingey", and they seem to like an extra couple of hours playing before they settle in.

Scale length also has an effect on overall string tension. Shorter scale lengths lower tension. But, if your Martin's scale is 25.5" or thereabouts, (average for a dread), that isn't the issue. It would have to be down about Gibson length, (24.75"), before I expect it would cause trouble when down tuning.

Actually, jumbo bodies have better control in the bass than does the average dreadnought. One of our members described them as, "more articulate". If you've adjusted to the tonal spectrum of a parlor sized guitar, then a boomy Martin will be, (as it appears you've already discovered), quite a shock to the system.
Last edited by Captaincranky at Oct 7, 2013,
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thank you both for replying and i am very sorry for the late reply. a few updates. the scale length is 25.4" and anything else you might want to know can be found here http://www.martinguitar.com/component/k2/item/926-drs2.html?Itemid=6

i went and had a look at the guitar shop and online and these brass strings seem to be something of a rarity. the guy at the guitar shop had never heard of them and sort of looked at me suspiciously. but i did find some on ebay so il certainly give them a shot.
i think i am going to kep the guitar in standard tuning as that is how the rest of my band is.

Im considering trying out a bone saddle instead of the tusq one already fitted just for the fun of it.
i seriously cant put this guitar down for more than half an hour and its destroying my social life and marriage. but really who needs them when you have guitars

oh yeah this guitar seems to be incredibly sensitive to the condition of the strings fitted. it sounds best with strings a few hours old but unlike my other guitar i cant get away with boiling and refitting the old strings as it just sounds weird.
since buying the guitar it has somewhat lost its boominess (either that or im more used to it) and the higher strings have come more to the forefront.
it has definitely opened up somewhat in the 3 weeks iv owned it.
the only downside to this guitar is the pickup isnt anything spectacular, its a fishman sonitone internally fitted under the bridge apparently and... well it definitely sounds nowhere near as good as my humbucking rare earth on my other guitar. any thoughts on a better pickup for this beast??
Last edited by NoTroll at Oct 20, 2013,