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A little less than a year ago, I purchased a Bugera 6262 Infinium. Since then it has completely quit working on me three times. Anyone have anything similar happen to them?
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Quote by jld8111
A little less than a year ago, I purchased a Bugera 6262 Infinium. Since then it has completely quit working on me three times. Anyone have anything similar happen to them?


I'm sure there's loads of them.
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Do a search on Bugera and I'm sure you'll find loads of problems. Their quality control is poor. If you want a good amp, don't buy a Bugera.
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their qc is questionable i know or ive heard that theyve gottne better at it
i recently saw a new v22 and it looked a bit better than my old one(parts wise not new v old)

but then again if youre goign to buy anything from bugera i recomend the V22 or 55 or v5 ive never heard anyone have ttrouble with that line cept for the old channel switching pedals not working or somethign but i never had problems with mine(this issue was eventually fixed

but yeah qc problems aside you get what you pay for
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had a V22 and for the most part is kinda a tank (for a cheap amp and for what i put it through).

for some reason, their V series are the most reliable amps. and coincidently some of their cheapest.
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Quote by jld8111
A little less than a year ago, I purchased a Bugera 6262 Infinium. Since then it has completely quit working on me three times. Anyone have anything similar happen to them?



The 6262 doesn't seem to have a lot of issues either.

My 333xl is still chugging right along - still love it.

If you bought it NEW a year ago, and registered it, it is still under warranty. Call Bugera.
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If you buy Bugera always buy it from a shop with good return policy and prepare for lottery. Their QC is horrid. If it acts up, return it immidietly for replacement. You may eventually get a good one that works properly and wont crap out on you.

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Yeah bugera are shite

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Bugera has had some well known problems, but the claims of their abject QA failures are grossly overstated.

Everyone bitches about a lemon, you seldom hear about the hundreds with no problems.
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Bugera owners chime in all the time when we get these threads, saying that their personal amps still work. Do we need a thread every week on the lack of failures? "Still have my 6262, no smoke yet" ?

The Thomann numbers posted a while ago before Thomann pulled them indicated that Bugera's failure rate was significantly higher than any other amp maker. Nobody's ever said that every bugera breaks, but it is worth noting that their failure rate is seriously anomalous. Besides, this thread is specifically asking about Bugera failures, bitching about lemons is exactly what's to be expected here.
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Oh its this thread again................
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Quote by Roc8995
Bugera owners chime in all the time when we get these threads, saying that their personal amps still work. Do we need a thread every week on the lack of failures? "Still have my 6262, no smoke yet" ?

The Thomann numbers posted a while ago before Thomann pulled them indicated that Bugera's failure rate was significantly higher than any other amp maker. Nobody's ever said that every bugera breaks, but it is worth noting that their failure rate is seriously anomalous. Besides, this thread is specifically asking about Bugera failures, bitching about lemons is exactly what's to be expected here.


This appears to be a response to me?

I think you missed my point?

I also remember the Thomann numbers a little differently than you apparently?

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Here are the Thomann numbers.
Peavey: 1.47% failure rate
Burgera: 2.14% failure rate
Behringer: .72% failure rate
Marshall: .62% failure rate
Fender: .33% failure rate
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Quote by Roc8995
Here are the Thomann numbers.
Peavey: 1.47% failure rate
Burgera: 2.14% failure rate
Behringer: .72% failure rate
Marshall: .62% failure rate
Fender: .33% failure rate


Let's run with those.

A market entry bargain price point manufacturer with a failure rate only .67% higher than an established market leader with a full price point range of products?

I'd say that's a win?


FWIW, I seem to recall one set of numbers where Peavey was higher than Bugera, but I may be mistaken.

And my initial point was not that Bugera is a shining star but that they aren't the catastrophe that some appear to believe.

I have no skin in the game, I don't own one, but I would if I had a need and the price was right.
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Quote by Roc8995
Here are the Thomann numbers.
Peavey: 1.47% failure rate
Burgera: 2.14% failure rate
Behringer: .72% failure rate
Marshall: .62% failure rate
Fender: .33% failure rate



Also, I wouldn't go by these numbers. Being unsure of the way they get these numbers, they probably aren't fair numbers.

I seriously doubt that they keep track of 100% of the amps they distribute. Those are failure rates from that distributor only. Maybe musicians friend only has a .00000005% failure rate on Bugera. Who knows?

Not likely.

Although I'm not arguing that Bugera doesn't have some QC issues, I've seen many more Mesa, Marshall, Fender, and Peavey amps in the local repair shop on the counter.

They all have potential issues. If you're worried about your amp exploding, don't take the chance on Bugera. Its that easy.

I will say that in the past 6 months or so that my 333xl has taken a BEATING... I want it to catch fire or something so I can justify buying an Egnater. haha lets see how long itll keep up.
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Also, I wouldn't go by these numbers. Being unsure of the way they get these numbers, they probably aren't fair numbers.

I seriously doubt that they keep track of 100% of the amps they distribute. Those are failure rates from that distributor only. Maybe musicians friend only has a .00000005% failure rate on Bugera. Who knows?

Not likely.

Although I'm not arguing that Bugera doesn't have some QC issues, I've seen many more Mesa, Marshall, Fender, and Peavey amps in the local repair shop on the counter.

They all have potential issues. If you're worried about your amp exploding, don't take the chance on Bugera. Its that easy.

I will say that in the past 6 months or so that my 333xl has taken a BEATING... I want it to catch fire or something so I can justify buying an Egnater. haha lets see how long itll keep up.

I agree that those numbers don't represent as a whole, but that is alarmingly high for only one retailer wouldn't you say?

You have seen more "other brands" in the shop, but for what? most likely it is tube swaps and biasing. Also the other brands you mention have been around for 40+ years vs the <10 yrs Bugera has hit the market.

I have the 333 and it is a good sounding amp for sure, but I would never gig with out a backup.
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Quote by Robbgnarly
I agree that those numbers don't represent as a whole, but that is alarmingly high for only one retailer wouldn't you say?


No.

Which has been my contention all along..

The numbers say that for every 100 amps shipped, less than 3 will be returned.

That's a far cry from the hysteria often seen here. Should it be less? Sure. But it's not a massive number to begin with. The numbers say that if you buy one the odds are massively in your favor that it will work fine.

Quantitative thinking says that what we see here is bandwagoning, not factual discussion.
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Quote by Arby911
No.

Which has been my contention all along..

The numbers say that for every 100 amps shipped, less than 3 will be returned.

That's a far cry from the hysteria often seen here. Should it be less? Sure. But it's not a massive number to begin with. The numbers say that if you buy one the odds are massively in your favor that it will work fine.

Quantitative thinking says that what we see here is bandwagoning, not factual discussion.

When compared to the others, I'd say it is significantly higher

Like I said I own one and I have had problems with it, most would have had a hard time doing the work if they could do it them selves. Actually I know 4 people other than me who own Bugeras and all but 1 person has had issues with them.

That to me means that there is a very large likely-hood that you will have problems with them. No, that does not mean you are guaranteed to have issues, but I'd be very leary of them if it is your only amp
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When compared to the others, I'd say it is significantly higher

Like I said I own one and I have had problems with it, most would have had a hard time doing the work if they could do it them selves. Actually I know 4 people other than me who own Bugeras and all but 1 person has had issues with them.

That to me means that there is a very large likely-hood that you will have problems with them. No, that does not mean you are guaranteed to have issues, but I'd be very leary of them if it is your only amp


I guess our definitions of 'significantly' differ....well....significantly?

I just can't see a deviation of less than 1 unit in 100 as significant?
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I own the original Bugera 333 combo. A few weeks after I bought it, it burnt out. I took it to a shop and they fixed it (it was the plastic connector issue). Ive had it for about 4 years now and it sounds and works great (granted, I like my Powerball better than it still).
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can we close this thread? topics of bugera reliability constantly going around in circles.

threads have exactly the same answers on a hundred forums. the reliability is not good compared to higher price brands. they are cheaply made, because they are cheaper price point products.
thats pretty much it.
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