Poll: Debt Ceiling
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Yes, Congress will pull through
36 40%
No, we're done for
55 60%
Voters: 91.
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#1
You would think that they would, since if Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling by October 17th, the US will default on its debts and shit will hit the fan. But seeing how they couldn't even agree on a deal to keep the government from shutting down, they might fail on the debt ceiling too.

Do you think the government will stop disagreeing like children and get a deal done to raise the debt ceiling before October 17th? Or are we screwed?
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#2
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#4
I remember when everyone was screaming about the debt ceiling last year, too.
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I remember when everyone was screaming about the debt ceiling last year, too.


Government didn't shut down last year either.
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#9
The USA certainly have a ****ed up voting system.
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#12
No, this is the end of America. Eventually the federal government will stop functioning all together and the states will form into several smaller countries. China will become the new superpower and rule the world.
#13
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Wow


Tl;dw??
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#15
I'm just going to sit back and 420-blaze it erry day to get my Chinese eyes ready.
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#18
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Tl;dw??

They changed the rule that says that anyone can call for a vote to open the government, now only the republican leader can. They changed it on October 1st.
#19
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They changed the rule that says that anyone can call for a vote to open the government, now only the republican leader can. They changed it on October 1st.


Oh shit!! All over Obamacare?

I guarantee you that if the law was changed so that congressmen didn't get paid if the government was shut down, the government would have never shut down, and we wouldn't even have to worry about the debt ceiling.
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#21
Is it just me or does this whole "republican vote" thing seem like terrorism? Forcing an ultimatum on a group using fear tactics... yeah, that looks like terrorism.
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#22
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Not with them REPUBLICANS


(It's your fault guys)

Because clearly the Democrats refusal to compromise on Obama's pet bill had NOTHING to do with it, right?
#24
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Because clearly the Democrats refusal to compromise on Obama's pet bill had NOTHING to do with it, right?


Regardless of the validity of anybody's contentions with the bill, those contentions should not lead to a total and utter failure of government and a shutdown to this degree. It's embarassing.
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Because clearly the Democrats refusal to compromise on Obama's pet bill had NOTHING to do with it, right?



whoa, don't me wrong buddy, i'm not an obama supporter. left-wing does not necessarily mean obama supporter.
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#26


Do they always have to print things out onto massive boards?

Parliamentary inquiry. Why the hell does he need those?
#27
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whoa, don't me wrong buddy, i'm not an obama supporter. left-wing does not necessarily mean obama supporter.

Didn't say it did.

But don't act like this is the fault of both parties here.

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Regardless of the validity of anybody's contentions with the bill, those contentions should not lead to a total and utter failure of government and a shutdown to this degree. It's embarrassing.
Agreed. But it's the fault of both parties, really.
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#28
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Parliamentary inquiry. Why the hell does he need those?

I wonder what they do with them afterwards..
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#29
Anyone that thinks they won't are surely mistaken.

I guarantee they will. 100%.
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#30
Feel free to tell me how I'm wrong, as I haven't read much into it, but isn't the ACA already signed into law, and wasn't it the Republicans' idea to attach the defunding of the ACA to the budget in the first place, effectively holding the government hostage as further evidenced in that video?
#31
Hahaha. Of course they will open up the govt and raise the debt ceiling. No brainer. They will reach some "miraculous compromise", everyone will take credit for "achieving something for America today", shake hands, pose for the photo op and done.
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#33
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Because clearly the Democrats refusal to compromise on Obama's pet bill had NOTHING to do with it, right?


If we were talking about legitimate, democratic opposition to Obamacare, this would be a fair point, but that is not what we're dealing with here. We're dealing with the Republicans abusing loopholes in American parliamentary legislation to force their opinion and will on the majority, to circumvent democracy.

The majority of America voted for Obama and apporve of socialised healthcare, the Republicans are trying to use parliamentary loopholes to impose their will on the majority by bringing the country to a standstill. It is not a fair or legitimate tactic, you can't say that this is in any way the Democrat's fault, they played by the rules and were the executive of the will of the majority of American people.
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#34
just checking to see if I understood that video right, the republicans can't even discuss among themselves any new position because the majority leader won't allow it?
#35
Yes, voter support is fleeing the Republican party like rats off the Titanic and Boehner knows that if he and the Teabaggers are seen as deliberately causing another 2008 just to take health insurance away from poor people, it will be the end of their party for a generation.
#36
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Yes, voter support is fleeing the Republican party like rats off the Titanic and Boehner knows that if he and the Teabaggers are seen as deliberately causing another 2008 just to take health insurance away from poor people, it will be the end of their party for a generation.







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So much partisan wet-dream bullshit from both sides, it would be funny if it weren't so damn sad.
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#37
So essentially to resolve this, the republicans have to oust a tea party nutjob who holds all power over 'democracy' in the GOP, the democrats have to resolve whatever intra-party bullshit they've got going on, and then the two parties have to come together and come to some sort of compromise. Yeah, seems totally doable by thursday.
#39
They'll raise it. Raise it again after that, and again after that, and again...

All the way until they kill US currency and crash the markets again and we go into another recession/depression.

Or we default on our debt and the markets *might* crash again. Nobody can really agree on what will happen because nobody really knows.

Raising the debt ceiling is only prolonging the inevitable. It's like borrowing money from a loan shark to pay off another loan shark so they don't break your legs.

If I where you guys I'd be stocking up on whatever resources you need now. The next few years are going to be really rough!
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#40
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If we were talking about legitimate, democratic opposition to Obamacare, this would be a fair point, but that is not what we're dealing with here. We're dealing with the Republicans abusing loopholes in American parliamentary legislation to force their opinion and will on the majority, to circumvent democracy.

The majority of America voted for Obama and apporve of socialised healthcare, the Republicans are trying to use parliamentary loopholes to impose their will on the majority by bringing the country to a standstill. It is not a fair or legitimate tactic, you can't say that this is in any way the Democrat's fault, they played by the rules and were the executive of the will of the majority of American people.


I call bullshit on that. Everything seems to be split down the middle here. The Democrats refused to compromise on anything, and as a result the Republicans gave them a big fat middle finger and refused to let anything through. Both sides are equally to blame for different reasons.

Also, if the Democrats had passed a damn budget for the last 6 years, we wouldn't have been in this mess to begin with because we wouldn't have had to worry about fiscal cliffs and debt ceilings.
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