#1
Let's get straight to the point, shall we?

I have owned this particular 1979 Guild S-70 since April now, and can't connect it to anything. This is an east coast guitar, I'm in NOVA/DC. IIRC, the kid I bought it from said he found it in Georgetown at a yardsale. (a famous venue called The Bayou was there at one point.)

There were less than 250 of these manufactured between 1979 and 1981. Mine also happens to have possibly the rarest combination of options. (custom color, 3 Dimarzio singles (stock), mini toggles (blender and bleeder, also stock), and not to mention that it's one of the first made. (Feb of 79) )

You would think that someone, somewhere, would have seen this thing, or have a photo of it, or something, right? Well, you're dead ****ing wrong, friend. You see, I've called venues, photographers, record companies, music shops, and even brought it to a tech who has 25 years of experience in the biz. I've also posted to 10+ forums. Not even 4Chan can find any record of it. No one has any record of this being played out anywhere. You don't get that kind of wear from being a bedroom guitarist. This guitar has seen some shit, and I want to see what kind of shit its seen.

Now, here's my request, more or less plea at this point:

Help me find some info, PLEASE! I'd honestly greatly appreciate it. This is probably the most active guitar forum on the net, and I know there's a wealth of knowledge here.

I love this guitar to death, but I want to know the life it had before it had me.

#3
I noticed this one was the most active, so I picked it. I'd rather have it seen by more people.

Plus, this is a bit of a weird subject. I'm looking for the history of a guitar with very vague leads. I know there are a lot of good detectives out there.
#4
I can see your point, it's just that most of the replies you get in this forum won't be serious. The ones in the other one know their stuff

Do you want to know like who played it? For all we know it could just be some dad band that toured around the state a lot.
#5
Yes, I want to connect it to a band. I already know this thing inside and out, specs, etc. I contacted Guild the day I got it home.

This is most likely a punk guitar. (well, it is now, but in its past life as well) Just the area it's from, and the fact that it's beat to shit. It changed the smell of my room with its own pungent odor that outdid mine.
#6
A serial number and all that other nice info would be useful if you want someone to play detective.

That person is not me though.
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#9
So...what exactly do you want? You already know what it is, when it was made, and even the hardware. What else is there to know?
#10
The ****ing history, bro. I know what, when, and all that. I don't know who.

I want to know who owned it before me, and what band(s) they played for.
#11
The ramones.
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#12
That's definitely Rocktron the Transformer that turns into a guitar.

Congrats, your guitar is an alien and you're going to bang Megan Fox.
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#13
I don't think the finish removal is use. It looks like something nasty got spilled on part of it, plastic was impervious, and then the rest of the wear happened later. Check black Flag guitarist, insane persons website. Don't get more hardcore. But damage looks accidental from the one photo. Just got worse the more thrashing it took !
#14
There's groves worn in the wood, its not smooth at all in that area. Trust me, I'm just as confused as the next guy, and i own the damn thing lol.

I'll try to capture detail when I get home today. My SIII might pick it up on camera. I'm really not sure it's chemical, though. This plastic is bakelite and the lacquer is thin skin nitro. It definitely would have seeped underthe PG, which it hasn't.
#15
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The ramones.


I actually thought it was a Mosrite at first when I saw the kid lugging it over his shoulder through school. Offered to buy it immediately, because I knew it was something special.
#16
What makes you think anyone special played it? Because it's banged up?

That's idiotic. Someone probably just beat the shit out of it in their bedroom, or maybe it was some shitty garage band.
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#17
I don't feel like quoting, but it could very easily be chemical (nail polish remover, acetone, xylene, etc) that would have just ripped apart any finish including the plastic. I mean, you are talking to a polymer chemist here. Once all that got eaten up, it is that much easier to scratch and dent.

Also I have yet to see you post a serial number that could possibly make this search easier.

And as other have said, good luck finding the "history of who" for this guitar. If you can't find it locally, then you wont find it. Wear and tear do not mean this shit is important, was played by anyone important, or that anyone even cares about said guitar.

Does anyone even care about said model of the guitar or do you just find it cool? what makes these guitars special at all? or is it just special because you own it and want to talk about it?

Either way I don't care... I just don't have anything better to do at work today as all my projects are finished and well... I don't feel like playing with cyanide.
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I don't feel like quoting, but it could very easily be chemical (nail polish remover, acetone, xylene, etc) that would have just ripped apart any finish including the plastic. I mean, you are talking to a polymer chemist here. Once all that got eaten up, it is that much easier to scratch and dent.

Also I have yet to see you post a serial number that could possibly make this search easier.

And as other have said, good luck finding the "history of who" for this guitar. If you can't find it locally, then you wont find it. Wear and tear do not mean this shit is important, was played by anyone important, or that anyone even cares about said guitar.

Does anyone even care about said model of the guitar or do you just find it cool? what makes these guitars special at all? or is it just special because you own it and want to talk about it?

Either way I don't care... I just don't have anything better to do at work today as all my projects are finished and well... I don't feel like playing with cyanide.


That was my point. There is no damage to the plastic or the lacquer under the plastic in question, which leads me to believe it isn't chemical.

I'm not exactly comfortable with posting that publicly. Maybe it isn't such a good idea on a forum with this large of a following. There are bad apples in every bunch.

I don't care about the importance of the person, I just like history and connections. History has always been one of my favorite things. It annoys the hell out of me that i can't connect it to anything. Is love to know the story of the life.

Yes, you, and several others care enough to write paragraphs in reply. Multiple have offered me several hundred more than I paid for it as well. I'm not looking to sell, however. It is a very interesting guitar. For you to deny that is an absolute lie. You know it and I know it. It takes the best of both a Fender Stratocaster and a Gibson SG and throws em together. How the **** is that not cool?

Either way you do care, otherwise you wouldn't have replied. You're pretty salty, but that's cool with me. Have a lovely day

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It is a very interesting guitar. For you to deny that is an absolute lie. You know it and I know it. It takes the best of both a Fender Stratocaster and a Gibson SG and throws em together. How the **** is that not cool?


I've not seen the picture of your guitar due to work filters but my Hagstrom and probably loads of other guitars have a similar concept to that.
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#20
Closest thing in terms of body shape is a Schecter Tempest Custom. At least the one I saw reminded me of it.
#21
I think that's the guitar that Barney the Dinosaur jerked off onto repeatedly back in his dinosaur porn days of his youth. That's probably why the paint is stripped.
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#22
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You said stuff.


Honestly I don't care. I have nothing to do at work today and have nothing better to do than post stuff on a forum that keeps me entertained.

And of course I am salty, I love salt. It is delicious and awesome and good for you.

It is going to be impossible to track the guitar without the serial number. Not like anyone here can actually do anything with it if they got it.

And kid, I can deny that it is a nice guitar all day long. I have always hated the Fender look. Hell I even hate the SG look. That's why I own a Les Paul.

Anyway to keep on point. Serial number, or impossible to track. You need to find local people to learn the history of that guitar. You can even start when you bought it from, and who they got it from, and etc etc.

Unknown guitar, not used by anyone famous, not linked to anyone of importance. You have the whole internet and only a fraction of the guitar players out there. You won't find anything here. You need to go outside else you will never find anything.

Did I mention just how incredibly slow work is today?
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#23
The Guild S70 had DiMarzio SDS-1 pickups. The wood on it was rather cheap, it was meant as an entry level model that never took off, and it can often be found for sale on ebay for less than $200.

There looks to be some wiring fun that could be had if you inclined. I'd swap that bridge for a proper TOM, that one on there looks pretty poor. Otherwise I'd try to flip it on ebay for about $350 to see if anyone will bite.

Also, /mu/ is a horrible, horrible music board. Don't even bother with those stuck up idiots.
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#24
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The Guild S70 had DiMarzio SDS-1 pickups. The wood on it was rather cheap, it was meant as an entry level model that never took off, and it can often be found for sale on ebay for less than $200.

There looks to be some wiring fun that could be had if you inclined. I'd swap that bridge for a proper TOM, that one on there looks pretty poor. Otherwise I'd try to flip it on ebay for about $350 to see if anyone will bite.

Also, /mu/ is a horrible, horrible music board. Don't even bother with those stuck up idiots.


There you go, OP. Your guitar is a piece of shit Guild.
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#25
Yea, I mean, my homies are telling me to track down Ian McKaye and see if he's seen it. If he hasn't, then it's safe to say that it isn't a DC guitar and all hope is lost. Ffs, I've seen him around, and so have my friends, he isn'tthat hard to recognize.

For what it's worth, this is a straight up bad ass guitar, and the fact that I only spent $100 on it makes it so much sweeter to me. Yea, you'll put it down or w/e, but if you played it you'd unnderstand. I didn't think much of it when I first bought it, i knew it was something, i just didn't expect to fall in love with it. then again, it was caked with dirt and the fretboard was stained green from the frets corroding. I brought this mother****er back from the grave so it can keep on mother****ing.

And I guess I will post a serial number when I get home. My memory is a little ****ed this morning, I can only remember the first 4 digits.
#26
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The Guild S70 had DiMarzio SDS-1 pickups. The wood on it was rather cheap, it was meant as an entry level model that never took off, and it can often be found for sale on ebay for less than $200.

There looks to be some wiring fun that could be had if you inclined. I'd swap that bridge for a proper TOM, that one on there looks pretty poor. Otherwise I'd try to flip it on ebay for about $350 to see if anyone will bite.

Also, /mu/ is a horrible, horrible music board. Don't even bother with those stuck up idiots.


Haha, what? Mahogany and rosewood are cheap? Where have I been?

The ones on ebay I've seen (fewer than 10 in the past few months, iirc) have all been $1000 plus, and have all all sold (I assume, they're no longer there)

I'm not sure where you got the "regularly" from, because they do not come up often. Youre probanly thinking of the S-60, which is actually the predecessor to the S-70. Those were made with fewer options and lesser quality materials. Even so, you'd be hard pressed to find an S-60 for under $500.

Also, I'm all about /b/, /soc/, /pol/, and /gif/
#27
Yes there is cheap mahogany and rosewood and there's also high end mahogany and rosewood. who knew.
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#28
So it seems that OP is a knob and a child.
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#29
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So it seems that OP is a knob and a child.


Obviously. Born in 95.

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Haha, what? Mahogany and rosewood are cheap? Where have I been?


Yes, yes they are. That is why a full mahogany Les Paul sells for about $800 and a Les Paul with 1/4" maple top sells for about $1200. Maple is expensive. And it sounds a hell of a lot better.

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I'm not sure where you got the "regularly" from, because they do not come up often. Youre probanly thinking of the S-60, which is actually the predecessor to the S-70. Those were made with fewer options and lesser quality materials. Even so, you'd be hard pressed to find an S-60 for under $500.


If you know how to check e-bay, you can go see what was actually sold, as opposed to what was just listed. The highest selling Guild S60, Guild S-60, Guild S70, or Guild S-70 was only $650. Everything else was sold at $400-$450.

Anyone can ask $1000 all day long, but they obviously didn't get it. The guitars that sold we also in near perfect condition. And I found plenty of them for under $500. Also they look like shit.
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#30
Well I did some research for you, OP.

That guitar was owned by Henry Rollins and used on his solo album from the 90s titled "When Doves Cry." This was of course before he changed his name into an unpronounceable symbol, which would of course later lead to him being addressed as the artist formerly known as Henry Rollins.

$100 well spent.
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#31
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Haha, what? Mahogany and rosewood are cheap? Where have I been?

The ones on ebay I've seen (fewer than 10 in the past few months, iirc) have all been $1000 plus, and have all all sold (I assume, they're no longer there)

I'm not sure where you got the "regularly" from, because they do not come up often. Youre probanly thinking of the S-60, which is actually the predecessor to the S-70. Those were made with fewer options and lesser quality materials. Even so, you'd be hard pressed to find an S-60 for under $500.

Also, I'm all about /b/, /soc/, /pol/, and /gif/



Well, you're an idiot.
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#32
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Well, you're an idiot.


Why even respond? I already answered his question!
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#33
I commenting moreso on the fact that the he's like 17 and posts on /pol/.
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#34
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I commenting moreso on the fact that the he's like 17and posts on /pol/.


I don't even know what that is. And holy shit 1995 was 18 years ago. What the ****.
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#35
Dude, I've owned a Guild S-70, and that's not the original paintjob. Someone refinished it. I've seen that color before. It's a signature Tom Hess paintjob, and the paint color is called White Rain of a Thousand Loads.

Hope that helped!
#36
It was owned by a 15-year old of limited ability who dropped it down some stairs. Please stop deluding yourself.