Poll: Should we discard them
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Yes, it is our responsibility to stop them before they do damage.
11 29%
No, if we do, how are we any better than they are?
27 71%
Voters: 38.
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#1
Say there is a way to tell, at infancy, if a person was going to develop into a psychopath, and there is no medical or therapeutic way to stop this from happening. These are the natural born psychopaths, ones that regardless of their environment simply do not have the necessary brain functions to feel the full spectrum of human emotion and compassion/empathy. Do you think that it is our responsibility to end that persons life then and there?

Discuss.
#2
Personally I think we should exile them from the playing field rather than discarding them.
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#5
No. Historically defined "psychopaths" make up the majority of your special operations forces.
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You mean politicians?


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#8
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Pretty sure psychopaths aren't always killers.

this.

hasn't someone said that a lot of big business executives are psychopaths? don't know if they ever backed it up with anything though.

can we discard them first? the babies haven't done anything wrong yet.
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#9
No psychopaths no government, military personnel, artists, gta 5, movies, and such.

I think it's better suited to say that if a baby is known to have murderous tendencies, put them on an island with cameras and create a reality show.
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#10
Just because someone isn't a killer doesn't mean that they can't be bad people. Just being killer doesn't necessarily make you abad person either, unless you think soldiers are all bad people (in which case you're wrong).
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#11
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No. Historically defined "psychopaths" make up the majority of your special operations forces.


So put them all into military academies at birth?
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But srsly do you want to take on all the risks that psychopaths bring to society just so every once in a blue moon one will do something funny?

i don't think you understand the definition of a psychopath.
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#17
You could consider Hitler a psychopath, but how could you have ever known he would have been responsible for the worst conflict in human history when he was just a kid?
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i don't think you understand the definition of a psychopath.

I don't think anyone else in this thread does.
#19
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I don't think anyone else in this thread does.

Psychopathic traits are like unreliability, charming but antisocial, constantly calm, egocentric, impulsive, poor judgment, etc

not really someone who doesn't deserve to live

If it were someone that's gonna definitely be a killer like you seem to think then yeah, I'd argue it's best to get rid of them as a baby if the parents are okay with it but that isn't the case.
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#20
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You could consider Hitler a psychopath, but how could you have ever known he would have been responsible for the worst conflict in human history when he was just a kid?

Exactly. How would you determine what "damage" someone is going to potentially do at birth, based on the state of their brain at birth?

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Fyi, not all psychopaths are killers. Most are just what people would call egocentric and selfish bastards.
#21
I think we should define psychopath first before we continue. From what I remember in psychology class most people don't really know what that word even means.
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So put them all into military academies at birth?


No definitely not; military academies only serve to turn the sane insane, and the psychopathic into brain-dumb semihumans
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#26
Can we just turn them into psychics?
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#27
Psychopaths are better suited in certain trolley problems so hell naw.
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On the other hand plenty of surgeons, lawyers, and completely non-destructive people are also technically sociopaths. The idea is kind of unsettling but of course none of them deserve to die.

What?
#29
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Psychopathic traits are like unreliability, charming but antisocial, constantly calm, egocentric, impulsive, poor judgment, etc

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So like Todd?
#30
this reminds me of when Dr. Phil brought some troubled kid on his show and proceeded to tell him he showed 18 of the 20 signs of a psychopath.

thanks for the self-fulfilling prophecy Dr. Phil. how professional of you.
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#31
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Psychopathic traits are like unreliability, charming but antisocial, constantly calm, egocentric, impulsive, poor judgment, etc

not really someone who doesn't deserve to live

If it were someone that's gonna definitely be a killer like you seem to think then yeah, I'd argue it's best to get rid of them as a baby if the parents are okay with it but that isn't the case.



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#32
Also, who would be the governing body that oversees who goes and who doesn't?

Oh, yeah, right. Republicans.
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Also, who would be the governing body that oversees who goes and who doesn't?

Oh, yeah, right. Republicans.

I doubt either party would support this. Maybe the US communist party would back it -- big maybe though.
#34
Of course, we have a social responsibility to kill people for crimes they may possibly at some point, but probably won't commit. Hell... why stop with "discarding" psychopaths? It's our responsibility to breed a better race...... So let's get rid of blacks, jews, gays, irish, italians, hispanics, autistic people, the obese, the mentally ******ed, the physically impaired, did I leave anyone out? If only there were some place we could put these people, some type of area to keep them separate from the rest of the populace and extract free labour from them whilst they await their execution. Why whatever would we call such a wonderous place?

The idea that even three people take eugenics seriously in 2013 disturbs me. Maybe we should..... erm..... "discard" the three people who voted "yes" as they may have a chance of becoming the next Adolf Hitler.
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Of course, we have a social responsibility to kill people for crimes they may possibly at some point, but probably won't commit. Hell... why stop with "discarding" psychopaths? It's our responsibility to breed a better race...... So let's get rid of blacks, jews, gays, irish, italians, hispanics, autistic people, the obese, the mentally ******ed, the physically impaired, did I leave anyone out? If only there were some place we could put these people, some type of area to keep them separate from the rest of the populace and extract free labour from them whilst they await their execution. Why whatever would we call such a wonderous place?

The idea that even three people take eugenics seriously in 2013 disturbs me. Maybe we should..... erm..... "discard" the three people who voted "yes" as they may have a chance of becoming the next Adolf Hitler.


That was already done before during the 18th century.
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/psychopath

There's a definition. Enjoy, people.

That definition isn't very current; of course it literally means "psycho", of the mind, and "path" as in pathology or illness, but usually people are referring to Robert Hare's definition of psychopath. It refers to the so called "morally insane".
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I think it's better suited to say that if a baby is known to have murderous tendencies, put them on an island with cameras and create a reality show.
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#40
It sucks that individuals who have been victimized or had numerous/continuously negative experiences with people exhibiting these traits are much less likely to trust others. But no we should never just reciprocate damage, it's equally cruel.

Okay I'm thinking this thread was probably a joke question heh.
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