#1
Hi All, first post so take it easy on me.

Im thinking of getting A TC nova system, those familiar will know theres no 4 cable method.

This is putting me off a bit as I usually run my mod/time effects through the loop on my amp. I know you dont really want to put mod/time effects before the pre amp but the way I set my amp up im wondering if it wont be a problem.

I have a 100w Hiwatt which i only use the clean channel, setting the power amp/master volume to 10 and the pre amp very low so I get a really clean signal. For gain I use a Keely blues driver in front of the amp. Now im thinking as im not really using the gain in the pre amp to distort the signal I should be fine just sticking the nova system in the front after the blues driver.

does what im saying make sense or am I talking S**T? I know the only way to know would be to try it, but I dont want to buy one to find out it sounds rubbish in the front. I want to use the drive and compressor in the nova system so putting it in the loop isnt an option.

Any thoughts

Cheers
#2
The experts won't tell you what I'm about to tell you, but what you need is a new amp.
#4
You should be alright, seeing as it has an analog drive system designed for such purposes. You can run your compressor wherever you want: before the TC, after, and even in the loop by itself.
#5
Really, you would want to try both and pick which one you seem to lean towards.



Effects can sound great in front, I don't really see the issue here.
#6
That's what I do, works just fine. Sometimes you'll find that what you thought was "squeaky clean" is actually slightly dirty or becomes slightly dirty with the boost your pedals are adding, but I doubt you'd have either of those issues with a Hiwatt.

This is how people ran effects before every amp over a certain price point had an effects loop. It worked pretty well! A big reason that loops became mandatory on certain kinds of amps is that all of a sudden you were running 4, 5, 6 gain stages instead of 2 and it sounded like crap with your rackmount reverb, pointy guitar, and your spandex zebra-print pants. If you don't have spandex pants and you run your preamp clean you don't necessarily need a loop at all.
#7
the problem is putting the nova through the loop isnt an option. it will have to go through the front of the amp. but as I dont use the pre amp in my amp for gain/distortion I use a pedal which will be in front of the nova, in theory it should be fine?
#9
Cheers Roc, it makes sense to me but just wanted some reassurance before I went and spent £300 on the nova. The hiwatt is great, loads of headroom on the clean channel, putting the power amp/master volume on 10 its almost impossible to get to get the tone dirrty before your ears would explode, lol
#10
You are using your preamp for distortion by driving it harder with a boost pedal. It doesn't matter if the boost is done by V1 or a pedal, the distortion is still coming from the preamp.
But having said that, we all ran all our effects out front for a long time. Effects loops didn't appear until the 80's so every live recording done prior to that had all the effects in front of the amp. A loop helps make delay more distinctive but really, people obsess over FX loops way, way too much.
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