akaikisaki
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Hey guys..
i'm planning to buy a new electric guitar..and these are the guitar choices i came up with..


please help me with choosing the best among these...
and if you have any suggestions for any other guitar(s)..then please..post them


1). BC rich ASM1PBK...
2). Charvel Desolation DS-3 ST
3). ESP, LTD EC Series, EC-10
4). Ibanez, GRG150P


My Location: India

Favorite Artists: Slash, John Petrucci, Paul Gilbert, Synyster Gates, Jimi Hendrix,
Alexi Laiho

Frets : 24

Pickups: dont know much about them....so please suggest pickups which reduce/cancel buzzing

Budget : 15000-17000 INR

I am interested in learning shredding...


thnx
Last edited by akaikisaki at Oct 27, 2013,
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THere are a sea of guitars for you to choose from. You need to tell us some specifics. If you don't know what you are looking for, then it is probably best to go to a guitar store and try as many as you can.
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well...there are..bt i have to stay within the budget...
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THen only play guitars that are within your budget
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the names i mentioned above are within my budget..
i want to know which one of'em is the best...


1). BC rich ASM1PBK
2). Charvel Desolation DS-3 ST
3). ESP, LTD EC Series, EC-10
4). Ibanez, GRG150P
Last edited by akaikisaki at Oct 28, 2013,
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That completely depends on what exactly you want, but you haven't really given enough information on what exactly you want, hence my suggestion to try more guitars.

What kind of construction do you want? What bridge do you want?
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Quote by akaikisaki
the names i mentioned above are within my budget..
i want to know which one of'em is the best...


1). BC rich ASM1PBK
2). Charvel Desolation DS-3 ST
3). ESP, LTD EC Series, EC-10
4). Ibanez, GRG150P


Like was said above, "best" is kind of subjective...but if you give us more info, perhaps we can help.

So, when you ask which is "best" are you asking about quality control and overall construction? Bang for the buck? Or are you asking which is best for shredding?

Because if it is the last, we really can't help much. Shredding technique is about speed and precision, and the physical aspect of a guitar that most directly influences how fast and precise a guitarist can play is how comfortable he is with the neck. And the thing is, for some guys, that means a skinny neck, for some it means a big fat neck. You'll have to figure out what kind of neck feels best in your hand.
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akaikisaki
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Like was said above, "best" is kind of subjective...but if you give us more info, perhaps we can help.

So, when you ask which is "best" are you asking about quality control and overall construction? Bang for the buck? Or are you asking which is best for shredding?



Quality and bang for the buck....

And i think i am starting to get your point...both of you...

that i should go to a shop...and try guitars...and then choose one..


but still...could you tell me that amongst the 4 of'em....which is good...just your opinion...keeping in mind quality and sound...

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My gut feeling is that the Ibanez and ESP LTD would be the best bargains in terms of overall quality in your price range.
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My gut feeling is that the Ibanez and ESP LTD would be the best bargains in terms of overall quality in your price range.



thanks...


i've come across various comments that said cheap BC RICH guitars are bad...is it true??
bad as in..bad quality...bad sound...nd all
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North
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Quote by akaikisaki
thanks...


i've come across various comments that said cheap BC RICH guitars are bad...is it true??
bad as in..bad quality...bad sound...nd all

Yep.

You can get a used cheapo BC Rich for $40 off of Craigslist in my area. They're junk. The features you really need in a starting instrument are tuning stability, a nicely-finished neck and decent quality. I wouldn't bother with a tremolo system when buying a guitar at this price.

Yamaha Pacifica, Godin, Gretsch, Squier Classic Vibe/Vintage Modified and Ibanez are known for making cheap guitars at a pretty high decent level of quality.
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BC Rich isn't a bad company to deal with. However, their aesthetics are polarizing, and their low-end guitars (sub-$500) are not comparable in quality to other brands that are popular in the metal scene. Their high-end guitars are as good as anyone's.

The same could be said of several other "metal brands", too. For instance, I own a couple of Deans that I love, but again, I wouldn't touch one under $500.

FWIW, if I were looking for a "metal guitar" under $500, I'd probably go Fernandes, Ibanez, ESP LTD or Schecter.
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North

North where?Punjab?Kashmir?Chandigarh?Haryana?

I once saw a beautiful ibanez guitar in jalahndar district.
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I would definitely go with the Charvel.

The LTD 10 is garbage.

The Ibanez and BC Rich are both just disappointing.

The Ibanez is probably pretty solid though, it'd be a safe alternative.
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North where?Punjab?Kashmir?Chandigarh?Haryana?




Delhi..

are you from India too??
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I would definitely go with the Charvel.

The LTD 10 is garbage.

The Ibanez and BC Rich are both just disappointing.

The Ibanez is probably pretty solid though, it'd be a safe alternative.



okay...if its not too much trouble....could you please explain why...

"The LTD 10 is garbage.

The Ibanez and BC Rich are both just disappointing.

The Ibanez is probably pretty solid though, it'd be a safe alternative"???
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Hey guys//...

i was browsing the net for guitars under my budget..and came across various guitars which i would like to try...but the thing is..most of them are not in my state and are available online...i live in the northern part...and they are available in the south...1365miles to be exact from my location...

so i will just try out the shops closer to me...and if...i am not satisfied with the guitars..i would post the names of the guitars which i would like to try...and then you all can give opinions about them...
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Good hunting!
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akaikisaki
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i know i said that "if...i am not satisfied with the guitars..i would post the names of the guitars which i would like to try"...but still,...here's the list :P


Fernandes Vortex X
Aria MAC 30
esp_f10
esp_ec-50
schecter avenger
schecter s 1
schecter solo-6
Ibanez GRG121EX
esp h 51
ESP VIPER-50
esp h101fm
jackson js35wr

ehhh!!! opinions..!!?
dannyalcatraz
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As I stated before, I'd probably go the Fernandes route. I've got two Fernandes Ravelles already, and am considering a third. Their necks are slender, though not so skinny as some Ibanez necks are. Build quality seems consistent across their production line. I'm not a fan of Vs- I think they're cool, but uncomfortable- but I'd expect theirs to be pretty good. If I were to buy a V, theirs would be on my short list (after the Reverend Volcano and the DBZ Cavallo).

That said, you probsbly couldn't go wrong with the ESPs, Schecters or Ibanez on your list, either.
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Offworld92
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I think the Aria will probably give you the most bang for your buck. Will reply further when I'm at my computer.
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Quote by akaikisaki
Delhi..

are you from India too??

It's too crowded in dehli.

No my parents were from india.Im a Canadian but regularly go to india.

I'm thinking you should save up some more money because the guitars you listed are low quality begginer stuff.
akaikisaki
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okay..
i'm going to visit a few shops tomorrow...and will try out the guitars...


before that...can anyone explain what are the facts/points i should keep in mind and what exactly should i be focusing on while trying'em out....?? like pickups(which will reduce/control buzzing)...neck...n all,,,,....
dannyalcatraz
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First concerns are the obvious ones:

1) how does the neck feel?

2) is the body comfortable?

3) are there any obvious visual problems with the fit & finish- is the neck straight or does it bow, chips, gaps, sharp fret ends, tuning stability, etc.?

THEN you start concerning yourself with how the thing sounds:

4) what does it sound like plugged in?

5) are there any noises when switching between pickups or changing the volume, tone and other knobs?
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Willowthewitch
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Quote by samuraigoomba
Yep.

You can get a used cheapo BC Rich for $40 off of Craigslist in my area. They're junk. The features you really need in a starting instrument are tuning stability, a nicely-finished neck and decent quality. I wouldn't bother with a tremolo system when buying a guitar at this price.

Yamaha Pacifica, Godin, Gretsch, Squier Classic Vibe/Vintage Modified and Ibanez are known for making cheap guitars at a pretty high decent level of quality.


The Ibanez is the best value of the ones listed. You might also want to look at the Jackson JS series. Both the Jackson JS22 and JS23 have really nice necks in my opinion.

Gotta agree about the low end BC Rich they're pretty much rubbish
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akaikisaki
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guys..i went...and tried a few....most of them weren't available in all the 4 shops i went...

and i loved the JACKSON JS35 warriror....it sounds amazing....
i wasnt quite comfortable with the V shape of the Vortex X...
didnt quite like the Ibanez grg150p...

so..the JS35wr...!!??
akaikisaki
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and guys..
i was thinking...

for the price of jackson...i can buy an ESP Viper 10 or F 10 along with a good amp and processor...

what do you think??