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#1
I mean as long as you don't obviously sound like the artist them self. For example if you made it big time and ended up playing shows that 1000s of people came to see, would you feel comfortable using a guitar associated with someone else?
#2
Yes, it's "unoriginal"...but I'm pretty sure pretty much nobody would care all that much if it sounds right.

I mean, it might raise some eyebrows to see someone at The Grand Ole Opry playing lead guitar on a Brian May Red Special, but a few songs in, nobody would care.
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#4
Only gear savvy guitarists in the crowd will know it's a signature, and even then only stupid ones will care.
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#5
One of my favourite guitars I have right now is my Angus Young SG, and I hope that one day I'll be approached by Gibson, and I'll have my own Nick Parry Signature Angus Young Signature SG.
#7
Jari Maenpaa of Wintersun played a Jem live for years (along with his Tokai Tele) and nobody ever questioned him, lol. Now he mostly plays J-Customs and Prestige RGs iirc.

It's not about the guitar, it's about the music. You could play a Hello Kitty Strat and people wouldn't care as long as you have the chops to back it up.
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#8
It depends what it is. Coming from a metal guy, I'm going to use metal examples. If you use a Synyster Gates custom Schecter Avenger (though a versatile and wonderful instrument), you would probably look silly. Besides my thoughts on A7x, most custom guitars have a gaudy paint job or shape and are almost never as good as a stock or a custom guitar. If you were to use Bill Kelliher's Golden Axe, you would probably look pretty cool - look it up, its just about the sexiest guitar on earth

For the money you're going to undoubtedly spend on someone else's signature guitar, you could most likely get a custom guitar built for your own personal taste, not someone else's. That being said, I kind of like it when people use other people's signature guitars, because I'm a gear nerd. Besides, deciding not to use a guitar that plays well on stage because you think you'll look silly is ridiculous
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#9
Like anything, it depends on the individual guitar you're talking about. There are tons of signature guitars that are just absolute garbage, made only to cash in on the value of a popular artists' name. However, there are lots of fantastic signature series guitars. The Gibson Les Paul is itself a kind of signature series guitar, and nobody in their right mind would ever fault you for bringing a Les Paul Standard on stage.

A signature series guitar is nothing more than a guitar that a particular artist has endorsed and might have had some spec input on (just like the Les Paul). Which makes it pretty much like any other guitar out there, as most reasonable guitar manufacturers take input from tons of musicians when they spec their guitars.

Any of the Squier signature series guitars are great, as is anything Squier with a gold or silver or otherwise colored-in logo (not the plain black logos, those are the cheapo squiers). Gibson makes a handful of great signature guitars that you wouldn't know were signature guitars, they just happen to be a certain traditional gibson style with specific appointments. For example, the Chris Cornell ES 335 is a fantastic guitar, same price as a regular 335 I think but with a satin finish and a choice of a bigsby or a tom/stoptail, and there's nothing 'chris cornell' about it, it's just a green or a black 335 with what looks like filtertron pickups. And then there's stuff like the Epiphone John Lennon casino which is very good and the Joe Pass Emperor II which are very good as well.

I mean why not go for one of these guitars if you like their spec and the you like the sound of the subtle differences they have from standard models?
#10
I wouldn't call Gibson Les Paul a signature guitar.

But whatever. I have seen some people play Frankenstrats in original bands. If it's a good guitar, who cares if it's a signature model. Also most signatures aren't that "obvious" signature models and look almost the same as the basic models (they just have the artist's name written on the headstock) - so people may not even notice it's a signature model. So yeah, if you like it, why not use it?
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#11
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Only gear savvy guitarists in the crowd will know it's a signature, and even then only stupid ones will care.


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#12
I think signature guitars *as signature guitars* are mostly just fanboi-ism.

OTOH, if the guitar has something specific about it that makes it functionally different from other guitars, then fooey -- use it.

For example, the Neal Schon Sig guitar is a Les Paul with a full-thickness body, a shaved neck heel, a Fernandes Sustainer, a DiMarzio Fast Track II in the neck position, a sweepable mids cut on a push-pull, a master volume and tone, diamond-shaped inlays and a Floyd. That's a lot of functionality that simply doesn't exist on another Les Paul. If you can find one (Gibson says 35 of them were built, other sources suggest as many as 90), go for it.

The other side of this coin is that there are now SO many signature guitars out there with so little to differentiate them that it's getting less and less likely that anyone's going to be able to identify a specific guitar with a specific artist...
#13
Quote by Metalisnotmusic
Synyster Gates custom Schecter Avenger (though a versatile and wonderful instrument)


No it's not.
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#14
Signature guitars usually cost more money. Unless the pickup configuration or something else about the guitar is totally unique, I wouldn't bother.
#15
playing someone elses signature guitar to thousands of people? yeah it's a bit odd.
#17
Here's my deal... If I want to use a sig guitar for a band, if it sounds right, I'm going to do so. If someone else wants to use a sig guitar, I'm certainly not going to fault them for it. You like what you like, whether you created it or not.
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#18
John Petrucci's signature line of guitars are also awesome to play from what I remember. Small-ish rounded neck, fairly ergonomical body, most have a piezo system, come in 6 or 7 string versions, and tons of finishes, have a fairly good set of pickups, and made by a well reputed manufacturer in (Ernie Ball) Music Man.

IIRC.
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#19
^yep, the musicman JP guitars are awesome. i don't think anyone in the right mind would avoid using one just because it's a John Petrucci signature guitar

I use a musicman albert lee signature model with 2 humbuckers - it's called an "albert lee" model because he is synonymous with the distinctive shape of the guitar, but with this particular guitar that's where similarities end.

I guess in some ways it's like a les paul - i would kind of consider the les paul a signature model, but there's not a "non-signature" alternative - it is what it is, the guitar is synonymous with a particular guitarist.
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#20
^ Does Music Man even make any non-signature guitars?
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#21
I'm really keen on the Steph Carpenter tele shaped ESP and the new Ben Weinman ESP looks good too. If I was in a band I wouldn't think twice about using them.
#22
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^ Does Music Man even make any non-signature guitars?


There are a few non-signature models like the armada, game changer, reflex, silhouette and axis (although the axis used to be the EVH sig). Well, i don't think those are signature models, but then it might be like the steve lukather models which don't actually bare his name (LIII etc)

Also i don't think many of their basses are signature models.
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#23
Ask all the pro's who play Gibson Les Paul's, the best selling sig guitar of all time
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#24
Quote by MaggaraMarine
I wouldn't call Gibson Les Paul a signature guitar.


unlike most sig guitars an original les paul is partially designed by Les himself.

it's not another modified "standard production line" guitar.

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#25
Whoever would judge you for using a signature guitar is not worth your attention anyway!
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#26
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No it's not.


Hey JR, two things: I've pissed off A7x fanboys before, I'm going down that road before; I've played the guitar, and like most high end Schecters, its plays pretty wonderfully, and sounds nice. Unfortunately, the shape really makes it impossible to enjoy playing in any position.
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#27
Most weird-shaped Jacksons are actually signatures. The King V, Rhoads, and Kelly are all signature guitars. The only one that isn't is the Warrior. Outside of that, the only non-sig Jackson shapes are superstrats. Most EBMM guitars are signatures too. The only ones that aren't signatures are the Silhouette, and Armada. Most guitars aren't seen as signatures. No on bats an eyelash if someone's playing a JP, a JEM, an Eric Johnson Strat, a King V, or a Tom Delonge. One of the reasons sigs have a bad rep is because we hear a lot of people say "I like ______ so should I buy his guitar?" and we yell out no. But most people who play sigs say things like "I like this guitar and I don't care who it was made for."
#28
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Most weird-shaped Jacksons are actually signatures. The King V, Rhoads, and Kelly are all signature guitars. The only one that isn't is the Warrior. Outside of that, the only non-sig Jackson shapes are superstrats. Most EBMM guitars are signatures too. The only ones that aren't signatures are the Silhouette, and Armada. Most guitars aren't seen as signatures. No on bats an eyelash if someone's playing a JP, a JEM, an Eric Johnson Strat, a King V, or a Tom Delonge. One of the reasons sigs have a bad rep is because we hear a lot of people say "I like ______ so should I buy his guitar?" and we yell out no. But most people who play sigs say things like "I like this guitar and I don't care who it was made for."

I wouldn't consider King V, Rhoads and Kelly signature models. They are similar to Les Paul - they are all original shapes and they are also standard mass-produced line. The guitar shapes are just called with those names because they were the ones who designed the guitars. IMO signature guitars aren't standard mass produced models. They are more like limited editions and cost more money and they also have the artist's name written on them. Yeah, I think that's my definition for signature model - it's not a standard mass produced guitar. It's a more special guitar made for the "fanboys" who want to play exactly the same guitar as their idol. Jackson Rhoads for example isn't similar to the guitar Randy played - it's just the name for the shape (though there could be a Randy Rhoads signature Jackson Rhoads guitar - I don't know if there is).

But yeah, we had similar thread a while ago.

Oh, and signature guitars are replicas of the guitar the artist plays. They have same features as the guitar the artist uses. That's why Jackson's normal guitars aren't signature models.
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#29
Quote by JustRooster
Only gear savvy guitarists in the crowd will know it's a signature, and even then only stupid ones will care.

/thread

Seriously, who gives a shit if it's a signature guitar?
#31
Quote by Metalisnotmusic
Hey JR, two things: I've pissed off A7x fanboys before, I'm going down that road before; I've played the guitar, and like most high end Schecters, its plays pretty wonderfully, and sounds nice. Unfortunately, the shape really makes it impossible to enjoy playing in any position.



There were two in the music shop I used to guitar tech for. My job was to know things about guitars. They aren't good instruments. Every single other guitar that costs the same amount is better.

For $1,200 it's pretty sad that it's outsourced to be produced in Malaysia. It's pretty sad that it has a second grade sticky satin finish on the neck. It's pretty sad the the fret ends for such a round neck aren't rolled. It's pretty that the bridge is an LFR, not and OFR for that price (Read, the FR 1000 series is a licensed series for Schecter). It's also pretty sad because of simply just the looks.

If you have $1,200 to spend on a guitar and you buy the Syn Signature instead of any MIA Gibson Explorer, Les Paul Studio, SG Standard, Prestige Ibanez, or any used pro level guitar for the price, you're an idiot.

The Syn Sig is for idiots. I don't apologize for that blunt opinion.
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#32
Those are $1200?

[GEORGETAKEI]Oh my.[/GEORGETAKEI]

For that, maybe a bit more, I can get a Carvin, a custom from certain American luthiers, most Reverends, a SHIN Koi Fernandes Ravelle, G&L USAs, some of the better Godins...

Yeek.
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#33
That's the price for the current runs with Sustainiac and extras. Here's the original flagship model. Still $1,000.


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/schecter-guitar-research-synyster-custom-electric-guitar


Here's the top rated review of it on MF:

Simply I cannot explain how amazing this guitar is, I've been playing guitar for 3 years and I'm pretty expierenced.
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#34
Hahaha!

So for $1000, you get sticky gloss, an OFR trem and a very ugly paint scheme.

Or you could buy a Godin Redline and stick those exact pickups in it and spray paint it black so it's totes brootz.
#35
I have played the Schecter Syn Avenger before and I do agree that it is soooooo overpriced. The one I played just wasn't all that pleasent compared to other guitars of the same price range. I'd much rather have something like a Gibson Explorer or V.
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#37
Richard Kruspe played an ESP KH-2 and an ESP AW-500 for crowds of 20,000+ people.

I don't think it really matters.
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#38
if its outrageous, like a billy gibbons style gretsch.

but like a john P ernie ball? man those things kick so much butt, props for owning one. rock it. i hate signature guitars, but i would own a JP. its just about a perfect guitar. except for the colors. wish they had sext wood....but its basswood underneath so not much eye candy potential there.

if JPs had more colors, and a lower profile neck heel, oh man. neck heel is ok, could be way better. 25 inch scale (not a fan of 25.5 with my smaller hands). and a birseye maple fretboard. jesus. my dream.

oh and take the JP logo off the fretboard. put it somewhere else.
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#39
...totes brootz.


That phrase always makes me think of thugs with umbrellas. It makes me smirggle.
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#40
I could probably play like john pertrucci. if I raised the guitar up to my nipples and sight read Zelda boss battle music
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