GuitarNewbee
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I've noticed that all these usa prs guitars are all around 2k or more... does anyone know if there are any that are around 1k when buying new?
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New the new S2 series is made in the USA, but they have import hardware (I have heard)

Why not get a used PRS CE22/24? These are $900-$1400 used and are Identical to the custom 22/24 except they have a bolt-thru maple neck. I have a CE22, absolutely great guitar.
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look here they always have a few used ones www.guitarcenter.com/usedgear

The CE was the working mans PRS, it has been discontinued since 2007ish. I bought mine in 2004 and have never looked back
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I have a 2006 USA swamp ash I bought used for $900. I'd defiantly look for a used one over a new s2. I've seen USA made Starla's for 750 in like new condition in the Dallas area.
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I was just looking at the S2 line a coupe weeks ago, with the intent to buy one. They are pretty backed up on ordering now, depending on the model and the color. As far as I can tell thy differences between them and the higher version relative are finishes and pickups. I think the tuners, bridge, knobs, bigsby, etc. are all the same as the higher priced alternative. They might even use lower grade wood, that is me speculating. I have heard nothing but great things about them.

OT: like Robb said you are probable better off looking at a used CE.
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Guitar Player just reviewed the S2 models and the results were very favourable.
Differences were HW, Pickups and the necks were made with a scarf joint at the headstock and heel to allow them to use smaller pieces of mahogany. Maple tops (if applicable) will be plain too.
The USA prices new were $1100-1400 for a guitar made in their USA facility! Definitely worth checking out
Moving on.....
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find a nice used CE24.



i've played a few S2 guitars, personally i wasn't impressed with what you got at the price point.

ymmv and all that.
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Quote by GuitarNewbee
I've noticed that all these usa prs guitars are all around 2k or more... does anyone know if there are any that are around 1k when buying new?

The Mira and Starla were both awesome sounding guitars (but aesthetically didn't float everyone's boat -- some LOVE them though).

The S2 line are USA made. I've not heard anything about the hardware being different than the other USA lines. They keep the costs significantly lower primarily by not having the carved tops.

The CE line was awesome (I'd be happy if it returned)! I absolutely love my CE-22. But keep in mind, I prefer an unfinished maple neck over a finished mahogany neck (or any unfinished neck for that matter). So it was a primary deciding point for me over a CU-22. Here's a page that explains the history of models: http://www.prsguitars.com/csc/models.html

Right now you can find some sweet deals on used PRSi. Check craigslist, Guitar Center, TGP, etc.
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Quote by gregs1020
find a nice used CE24.



i've played a few S2 guitars, personally i wasn't impressed with what you got at the price point.

ymmv and all that.

They're at LEAST as nice as any Strat I've tired for the same money...
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I want to like the S2, but the fact they use the SE hardware at $1000+ kinda gets to me.
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^+1.

I think in a couple years they will not hold their value as much as the CE line. I don't doubt the S2 are great guitars though.
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The SE line isn't made in the US.

Ah, right you are! I didn't see that he requested USA-only PRS guitars.

For the record, what are the differences between the SE and CE versions?
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CE were made in US with bolt on maple necks and (usually) rosewood fretboards. Also older hardware before they started having all their custom pots and bridges manufactured.
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Quote by richardlpalmer
They're at LEAST as nice as any Strat I've tired for the same money...

that's not setting the bar very high richard.
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I don't think I've ever played anything in black walnut. It's a great ice cream flavor, so I assume it works well for a strat too.

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The slugs in the pickups for telecasters are from old winchester rifles, which is why they sound so country.
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Quote by Seref
CE were made in US with bolt on maple necks and (usually) rosewood fretboards. Also older hardware before they started having all their custom pots and bridges manufactured.

The CE has the exact same hardware and electonics as the Cu22/24 and the Standard 22/24. The PRS trem and everything. I don't know where you got your info from. They literally are Bolt-thru (not bolt-on) versions of the CU22/24. I only know because I have had one for 10+years
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used CE 24s and 22s can go as low as 700-800 in varying condition. most nice used ones will be up around 900-1000.

i saw a johnny hi land signature used for 1450 and a PRS semi hollow for 1950, which is currently down the street at the local store on sale. for 1950 a hollow body pre is unheard of.

for what you pay, PRS guitars don't really have the best resale, perhaps some models better than others. shocking actually.

however, if you look into carvin, i just bought a CT624 after spending a lot of time with PRS guitars. i have found very few PRS guitars that can match Carvin with the custom specs i orders (custom woods, hand finished back of neck, stainless frets, etc. that kins of stuff).

i am floored with my carvin. absolutely speechless. as in...why would anybody buy a PRS? and its about half the cost.

downside, the pickups and wiring are not nearly as good. good, but comparable? no.

PRS is a great guitar, i would love to own one. but dollar for dollar, feature for feature, Carvin is about 3x the value.
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Quote by ikey_
used CE 24s and 22s can go as low as 700-800 in varying condition. most nice used ones will be up around 900-1000.

i saw a johnny hi land signature used for 1450 and a PRS semi hollow for 1950, which is currently down the street at the local store on sale. for 1950 a hollow body pre is unheard of.

for what you pay, PRS guitars don't really have the best resale, perhaps some models better than others. shocking actually.

however, if you look into carvin, i just bought a CT624 after spending a lot of time with PRS guitars. i have found very few PRS guitars that can match Carvin with the custom specs i orders (custom woods, hand finished back of neck, stainless frets, etc. that kins of stuff).

i am floored with my carvin. absolutely speechless. as in...why would anybody buy a PRS? and its about half the cost.

downside, the pickups and wiring are not nearly as good. good, but comparable? no.

PRS is a great guitar, i would love to own one. but dollar for dollar, feature for feature, Carvin is about 3x the value.

Yes Carvin is a great deal if you want to go that way (and semi-customizeable) but PRS CE have started to go up in prices again.

$999 is the lowest price on a CE22/24 in almost a year. Most are in the $1200 range. Ever look at the resale of a Carvin, not much at all huh? I think PRS has them licked there besides every other aspect of the guitar.

And for a production guitar company, PRS is one of the best QC of any company out there.

Quicksilver guitars are awesome also if you can find a used one
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Quote by ikey_
used CE 24s and 22s can go as low as 700-800 in varying condition. most nice used ones will be up around 900-1000.

i saw a johnny hi land signature used for 1450 and a PRS semi hollow for 1950, which is currently down the street at the local store on sale. for 1950 a hollow body pre is unheard of.

for what you pay, PRS guitars don't really have the best resale, perhaps some models better than others. shocking actually.

however, if you look into carvin, i just bought a CT624 after spending a lot of time with PRS guitars. i have found very few PRS guitars that can match Carvin with the custom specs i orders (custom woods, hand finished back of neck, stainless frets, etc. that kins of stuff).

i am floored with my carvin. absolutely speechless. as in...why would anybody buy a PRS? and its about half the cost.

downside, the pickups and wiring are not nearly as good. good, but comparable? no.

PRS is a great guitar, i would love to own one. but dollar for dollar, feature for feature, Carvin is about 3x the value.


I have had 2 carvins and 2 USA made prs. The carvins don't even compare. Not close. Carvin pickups need replaced day 1.... I like them, but I would defiantly go prs in that price range price range.
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Quote by ikey_

i saw a johnny hi land signature used for 1450 and a PRS semi hollow for 1950, which is currently down the street at the local store on sale. for 1950 a hollow body pre is unheard of.

not completely. i picked up a hollowbody spruce for $1500 a couple years ago and there was one on tgp used for $1700 recently.

just pointing out it does happen. my local sam ash has one for around $2k now.
Quote by Roc8995
I don't think I've ever played anything in black walnut. It's a great ice cream flavor, so I assume it works well for a strat too.

Quote by JustRooster
The slugs in the pickups for telecasters are from old winchester rifles, which is why they sound so country.
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starcounter = agree to disagree. i think a lot of it is that i can customize my carvin to my specs.

for example, i was playing a 3000ish dollar mcarty if i remember in GC and i hated the back of neck finish, etc etc. i didn't see much better build than the carvin, i dislike PRS wrap around unadjustable bridges

and carvin woods are better at almost any price point, not taking into account that my guitar was about 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of comparable PRSs.

BUT I AGREE - the pups and electronics are nowhere near prs quality.
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to get back on topic, yeah a ce24 used is about one of the best deals in the guitar world when taking into account quality for the money.
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I'm still stuck on this statement that the S2 uses SE hardware. Where did this statement come from?

I just think it would be a disservice to start or continue spreading an incorrect rumor like that. Here's the info on the S2 line: http://prsguitars.com/s2series/about/. I mean the trem is the same as on the SE, but the other pieces all seem to be specifically for the S2 line but the other bridges aren't...
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Robbgnarly
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Well if they use the SE bridge, is it really hard to think that the rest of the hardware is the same?
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