#1
i am building a guitar and trying my best to make it top notch. I am thinking seriously about putting a set of Nail Bombs or something similar in my guitar. Does anyone have any good or bad experiences with bare knuckles or anything i need to know?
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#4
Depends on where you live. If you're in the US, I'm of the opinion that they're horribly overpriced for what they are. They have a massive hype machine behind them, which I think makes people think of them as being on a tier higher than SD or DiMarzio.

I think that you can pretty much get anywhere you need to go with an SD or a DiMarzio, and save yourself $100. If you do want to drop the cash on a BKP, the rest of your rig better damn well be up to snuff.

I had a BKP Miracle Man for a little while.
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#5
It really depends on what you like. Your best bet, if you have a friend that has a BKP or know a place that has a BKP equipped guitar, would be to test it.

I find that they have a more "open" sound. However that is a very subjective evaluation, and can differ from person to person. The way I would look at it is for you to buy either a neck or a bridge to try. Then if you really like it, you can order the other piece. That way you don't lose all that much if you dislike the sound.

Personally, I like the sound they give. However, this is running through a pretty high end rig, and after testing over 20 different pickups. I've shared some BKPs with friends, and they love it, BUT only after I told them what to listen out for. Before that, they could tell there was some difference, but couldn't pin it why or what was different.

From what I gather, all the people I've shared BKPs with love the sound, but don't think BKPs are worth the price.

That said, if you're really chasing a sound, what's a few more greenbacks?

Another point, BKP's high gain HB really sound nice, but their singles, P90s and low gain HB don't seem to get much love.

Hope that helps you.
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in the USA, I feel they are over priced but others love them
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#7
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If you want top notch pickups you might take a look to lundgren pickups


This.

But considering the BKPs are made my side of the pond, you might be better off with some SD's/Dimarzio/EMGs.
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#8
thanks very much for all the input. I am floating in a sea of HMMMMM as i search and search for the right set of pickups. I know i am going for quality so that really opens up my options. If BKPs are crazy awesome then i don't mind dropping the coin. I am looking at a few different options SDs are always in the mix, just found a nice set of Rio Grande Black Muy/Tallboy set, lollard, etc. The railhammer has peaked my interest a great deal as well.

It is not a bad position to be in, i enjoy getting others feedback about this stuff from UG because frankly i have no friends that know what a guitar is and going on the forums of the companies themselves is pointless because they are basically huge commercials for themselves.

Thanks again, please feel free to add anything about ANY of the humbucker pickups out there. always enjoy the knowledge.
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#9
Why don't you tell us what sound you want to get?

Tell us exactly what gear is in your rig, what pickups you're running now, and what you want to be different about your sound.
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#10
generally i am looking for an aggressive sound, which is what is making me lean toward the Railhammer Chisel/anvil combo. I am building a guitar from a body i picked up from GuitarFetish (it is a PRS style body) and a rosewood strat style neck.

I have a wide array of guitars with much different sounds, i put a set of GFS lipstick pickups into a modded MIM strat for surf style sounds. I have a Jaguar HH special with humbuckers and like the sound although they are very low output in general... not horrible sounding or anything. I just sold off my Grestch electromatic pro so i am just building something up from scratch for fun (i enjoy building and fixing guitars). All my guitars run through a Fender Deluxe reverb tube amp with a modest amount of pedals.

I do need to add i am not a Tone Freak or super crazy picky about things. I often leave guitars stock and just play/enjoy them. I ask you guys because i respect the forum and want to build a real monster of a guitar. I know built guitars do not carry much value so i am building it for me. I am trying to go high end on most of my decisions so it feels and plays solid for a long time.
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#11
Depends on the pickup and what you want out of it. They make a few really good ones, lots of average ones, and a few not so good ones. The Nailbomb neck is the only one I've tried that I felt was worth the price.
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#12
The other thing worth pointing out is, if you like the sound of handwound pickups, you don't necessarily have to go to BKP prices to get handwound pickups. So that's worth considering, too.
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#13
Scatter-wound pickups have openness to their sound, which the BKP are supposedly designed as. The problem with that would be uniformity in the sound between pickups of the same model. That may or may not be a bad thing depending on how you see it, but the scatter winding is done mostly on a machine with someone holding the wire in their hand or something otherwise it would take forever to make them in large numbers, cause I don't remember there being a waiting list for them..

Anyways since you are in US you could order SD Antiquity pickups or ask their custom shop to scatterwind a particular model you like which would give an openness to the sound like described above. Would probably end up about more less in the same price range as the BKPs i guess, but without the shipping from UK added I think.
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Scatter-wound pickups have openness to their sound,


This is silly. The pickups don't give a crap how they were wound. It's the pattern of the windings that leads to the inductance/capacitance of the LCR network.
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#15
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generally i am looking for an aggressive sound, which is what is making me lean toward the Railhammer Chisel/anvil combo. I am building a guitar from a body i picked up from GuitarFetish (it is a PRS style body) and a rosewood strat style neck.

I have a wide array of guitars with much different sounds, i put a set of GFS lipstick pickups into a modded MIM strat for surf style sounds. I have a Jaguar HH special with humbuckers and like the sound although they are very low output in general... not horrible sounding or anything. I just sold off my Grestch electromatic pro so i am just building something up from scratch for fun (i enjoy building and fixing guitars). All my guitars run through a Fender Deluxe reverb tube amp with a modest amount of pedals.

I do need to add i am not a Tone Freak or super crazy picky about things. I often leave guitars stock and just play/enjoy them. I ask you guys because i respect the forum and want to build a real monster of a guitar. I know built guitars do not carry much value so i am building it for me. I am trying to go high end on most of my decisions so it feels and plays solid for a long time.


and you are considering $300 on electronics? i know i will come off of an ass, and don't mean to, but if i were to build a 'top notch guitar' least for me would be warmoth, or higher end. you would have more money invested into ONE PICKUP than in the body of a 'top notch guitar'

i am not saying that its wrong to have fun and piece guitars together, i have done that plenty, but i just have done it to lower end guitars and prices.
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#16
Hell yeah I do. Got some Trilogy Suite single coils in my Squier and they'll melt the face of any metal guitar, yes, single coils in a Squier, don't doubt the power of my Squier.

My favorite pickup was the Painkiller, I could do almost anything with that pickup, even though it was made more for dejent.

I'm actually looking at getting the Nailbombs for my Custom Spalted maple tele, works well with mahogany body guitars.
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and you are considering $300 on electronics? i know i will come off of an ass, and don't mean to, but if i were to build a 'top notch guitar' least for me would be warmoth, or higher end. you would have more money invested into ONE PICKUP than in the body of a 'top notch guitar'

i am not saying that its wrong to have fun and piece guitars together, i have done that plenty, but i just have done it to lower end guitars and prices.


I agree.

And in addition, not sure how to say this without coming off as an ass, because I don't mean to, but you didn't really provide any helpful information in your post. What does "aggressive sound" mean?

Try this: tell us what bands/songs have a sound you'd like to get close to, or what you would like to sound like in relation to a given song.
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I agree.

And in addition, not sure how to say this without coming off as an ass, because I don't mean to, but you didn't really provide any helpful information in your post. What does "aggressive sound" mean?

Try this: tell us what bands/songs have a sound you'd like to get close to, or what you would like to sound like in relation to a given song.


+1

also what amp are you intending to use? do you gig? where are you getting the neck from?
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#19
I have a nailbomb in the bridge of my guitar, and I love it. It has a very open and huge sound, with a sort of 'changy' sound if you understand what I mean, I can't think of how else to explain it haha. I think you really just have to try it and see, luckily it worked out for me.
#20
But in the end what i really need is a new amp right everyone on UG?

Went with Railhammer Anvil bridge/chisel neck combo
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