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I'm not actually looking for anything new right now, as I don't have money, but I'm really interested in this subject. People always glorify american guitars, so I wonder if there are equally glorious instruments made in Europe.

I'm aware of Mayones and Skervesen guitars, both are exactly the kind of prestigious instruments I'm talking about. But the question is, are there other manufacturers that are as good as them? I'd really like my dream guitar to be European when I manage to buy one, so I'm gathering different options. And I don't mean stock guitar manufacturers like Ibanez or ESP, I mean those Caparison/Strictly 7/Mayones tier legendary guitars, most likely with custom shops if possible.

Offtopic talk about European guitars is okay too, as I said it's and interesting subject.

#3
Like this?



Absolutely beautiful. Cocobolo is one of the coolest top woods I'm aware of.

EDIT: Can't get it to show the pic, just the link Did I forget something?
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#4
Removed the "_srz_199_599_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz" junk after the file extension, works now.

Yum.
#5
People always glorify american guitars, so I wonder if there are equally glorious instruments made in Europe.

Outside the USA, Godin (Canada) makes nice guitars.

Widening the search to Japan, there's Fernandes, ESP, Killer, and others.

In England, look at Fret-King, MacPherson, Crimson, Eggle, PRGuitar, Stevens and so forth.

In Europe, consider Mayones, Ran, Flaxwood, Ruokangas, Nicole etc.

IOW, they're out there, just keep looking!
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#7
Thanks a lot I've heard of Ran guitars before, but I've never really heard anyone's opinion on them. I guess they're good?

And to clarify I was looking for European guitars specifically. Probably because I'm a finnish elitist snob. But thanks for all the others too of course

Thanks drawnacol too (misspelt that right?) Those are freakishly beautiful
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#12
Quote by guitar/bass95


And to clarify I was looking for European guitars specifically. Probably because I'm a finnish elitist snob. But thanks for all the others too of course

Then you really should look at Ruokangas! Fantastic axes.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#13
Yup, I think I live somewhat close to finland. Custom guitar builders are always fun. And Ruokangas has some really cool models. Duke especially is looking great.

And I think that Rans are extremely beautiful, but I too recall having heard mixed reviews. I'll keep them in mind anyway.

EDIT: after a while in the Ruokangas website...

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#15
Quote by drawnacrol
If you can I'd recommend going to Musikmesse to try out most of the guitars I've posted above. It will give you a better idea of what you want. Problem is most of them have 1 - 2 years waiting lists, even 3 in some cases.


Going to Musikmesse would be great. Will have to save money though, seeing Devin Townsend, Steven Wilson and Dream Theater live within a year is bad for my personal economy.
#16
But good for your soul!
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#19
Vigier and Lag
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#20
Strandbergs don't really look like my cup of tea I like a more traditional approach. I'll check Daves recs too
#21
bear in mind the cheaper lags are made in china, not france.
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#23
it's normally fairly obvious. the french-made ones normally have a fancier 12th fret inlay (i think) and often say "master" somewhere on the headstock. don't quote me on that, though.
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#24
Caparison aren't a main stream builder?

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#25
Here's some more made in Europe eye candy:
Nik Huber


Hufschmid


Wild Custom


Amfisound


Springer
#26
Thanks Baron And at least they don't sell Caparisons anywhere I could by one, and they are pricey. Could be wrong though.
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Quote by guitar/bass95
Thanks Baron And at least they don't sell Caparisons anywhere I could by one, and they are pricey. Could be wrong though.

Part of what you're going to run into tracking down brands on this list is that many are small, small brands- essentially custom shops or even 1-man luthieries. Few will be seen in stores.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
Part of what you're going to run into tracking down brands on this list is that many are small, small brands- essentially custom shops or even 1-man luthieries. Few will be seen in stores.


That's exactly what I'm looking for, given that they are top quality.
#31
.... You can spec out custom Jaden Roses and pay for them on finance through GuitarGuitar.

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#34
Now that you've seen there are lots of great Euopean luthieries, instead of...wait...in addition to posting more guitar porn, perhaps we can help you narrow things down to a few select makers, based on your budget & desires.

Soooo...what's your budget, and what do you want in a custom? Also, what kind of involvement & timetable are we talking about?

I ask that because it could matter. I just got a custom built in the USA by RockBeach. It took a year, partly because I was involved at every step, and I'm kind of deliberate. And I'd love to get a Crimson, but I know they're currently asking 18 months from order to completion.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
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#35
I completely missed that you had replied to this Danny :O Sorry for being a month or so late. I came back to this thread to check out some of the luthiers I forgot, and spotted this.

I'm willing to spend a good few thousand euros in a guitar (If i had a few thousand euros), meaning that I think I can get a guitar that's as good as I can get with 8000e max, and I think that I could get my dream guitar for less than 5000e looking at some prices.

My guitar of choice is superstrat, I like the blend of new and traditional, they're comfortable and look good. But in a custom guitar I'm probably looking for high build quality, high wood and hardware quality and fair trade. And above all I want an unique and personal instrument, precisely the opposite of a chinese factory made guitar. I'd like my guitar to be the literally unique.

I'm not a luthier, so I'm not going to be much of help in the building process. I don't mind the luthier deciding some things with the construction, as he'd probably know better. The preferred timetable is less than a year, since I have a short attention span.

Sorry for the extremely late reply.
#36
A lot of hilarious misinformation in this thread.

I've owned most of the guitars mentioned on this thread and if you want a no bullshit transaction, order a Mayones.

Want to Buy:

UV7PWH
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#37
Wreck guitars from Croatia - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wreck-Guitars/146603562635



Amazing builder,his build quality is on level of PRS Private Stock models and Sadowsky guitars. I would say his instruments are very cheap also.

He is also great in copying necks. I had this one really awesome neck on 30 years old guitar,and I wanted the same neck on custom guitar. And he made the same neck,which I thought no one can copy.
#38
Mayones is on the top of my wish list Also Ruokangas and Hufschmidt seem most appealing.

I'll check out Wreck too, looks really nice
#39
If you are going' with any Custom Shop,you must know every small detail of your guitar,from finish type,pots,wiring,scale,wood etc. So,you really need to think a lot about it.
#40
Quote by WhiteAngel20
If you are going' with any Custom Shop,you must know every small detail of your guitar,from finish type,pots,wiring,scale,wood etc. So,you really need to think a lot about it.


Most manufacturers, even independent luthiers, often have their basic models to build the custom guitar on. The ones I'm really interested in (Hufschmid, Ruokangas, Mayones) all have detailed specs which can be customized to a point. I of course need to know the majority of the desired specifications, but the luthiers do a lot of the work. As I said, I think that they know better what is the best way to set up a guitar, and I'm willing to trust their talent.
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