#1
Hello everyone, from a new member!

Ok, so here is my situation: I recently moved into a university dorm far from where I live, and as you can well imagine I do not have the freedom to blast an ampli full power when playing my Epiphone SG. Moreover the only time I have to play is in the evening-night hours, which makes everything worse.

So the point now is that I am forced to choose between get myself (I've not brought with me my ampli) a small studio ampli, to be used at very low volumes, or to play with the headphones always on: presonally I prefer the latter option.

My question is then: if I'm to play always with headphones on, is getting an ampli really that important? Can I just plug my guitar to my pc (through some guitarport or something like that) and then send it directly the headphones, or having an ampli is absolutely that necessary (even if I'm not using its cones)?
And, more important, how does a guitar through a guitarport-like device sound like? Is it that innatural?

Well, If you could give me a piece of advice on this topic I'd be very grateful! Also, if you have another solution to my issue that I haven't thought about, please let me know!!
(Also, if this isn't the right section to post this, please let me know as well!)

Thank you very much!
#3
I have found that portable digital modelers are very powerful and useful practice tools:

Boss Micro-BR 4 track
http://www.guitarcenter.com/-i1169092.gc

Boss Micro-BR 80
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BR80/

Pocket POD
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Line-6-Pocket-POD-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Processor-104391875-i1173933.gc

Tascam GT-R1
http://www.guitarcenter.com/TASCAM-GT-R1-Portable-Guitar-Bass-Recorder-105125306-i1401677.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/TASCAM-DR-1-GT-R1-Accessory-Kit-105020473-i1402140.gc

Korg Pandora Mini
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pandora-Mini-PXMINI-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Processor-H70754-i1746466.gc

Korg Px4
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pandora-PX4D-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Processor-103381554-i1124641.gc

Korg Pandora Stomp
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PandoraSTOr/

Korg Px5
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pandora-PX5D-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Processor-104821715-i1387080.gc

Here is a visual comparison of (left to right) Tascam, my PX-5 and one of my Px4s to my old Aiwa cassette player:



Only the Tascam has decent acoustic recording capacity. All DO have features like tuners, metronomes, drum synthesizers, and digital amp & pedal modeling.

So with decent headphones, you can rock out like you were playing Texas Stadium. And yes, they are all about the size of an old Walkman.

The ones I own: the Tascam has the external mics, a phrase trainer (loop & slow down stuff for practicing), and takes SD cards. Both it and the PX5 can connect directly to your computer via a USB port. The PX4 is discontinued, but it can still be easily found. It is less powerful than the PX5, but, oddly, the PX5 does not have a belt/strap hook.

The ones I don't own: The Line6 PocketPOD is, I believe, the most popular device like this; the Boss might be the most powerful (and priciest); the Pandora Mini is the smallest (its about the size of a stack of business cards), cheapest, and least powerful.

There are also apps for iOS and Android devices (maybe the others as well) that have many similar functions.
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Nov 20, 2013,
#4
I concur with dannyalcatraz, a recorder/trainer is a great tool to have. I recently pick up a BOSS Micro BR on clearance at GC for $50 and it's great for headphone practice.
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#5
Depending on your budget look at the Line 6 POD series. The HD are really nice if you want to spend that type of money.

I bought a used POD XT for $66 on ebay at the beginning of the year. No it's not the newest/best modeler but for silent practice it is great and you can use it with your amp later. They make them in pedal board form also if you want/need that type of function
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#6
Thanks for all the replies guys!!

So basicallly with one of those modelers I don't even need to plug the guitar through the computer, right? The only problem is that they're a bit too expensive for me..I was looking for something around 50-80£ (but I could do more for a great offer)! Do you think that it's doable?

Also, from what I understood, all these devices simulate guitar effects: how close do they get to the "real" sound?

Thanks again for your time and help, you guys are great!
#7
The least expensive one, the Korg mini-Pandora, is $99- I'd imagine that even with import taxes, it should be in your price range.

As for the sound...all digital modelers have some awesome tones and some utter crap ones. They may not even be using the same models across the product line within the same brand. On the whole, they're probably no better or worse than modeling amps.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Nov 20, 2013,
#8
The BOSS Micro BR has speaker cabinet and effects modeling. They're not going to fool you into thinking you're using the real thing, but for practicing purposes they do a respectable job. You can load MP3s on it to play along with and does time stretching so you can slow or speed up the tempo, and a bunch of other stuff I haven't even figured out yet!

The newer version, BR 80 is still pricey, but the older Micro BR can be had for a nice price on ebay.
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#9
Danny, do any of those work as a loop as well as battery operated? If so, I'd be walking around my apartment playing non-stop.
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#10
Quote by JustRooster
Danny, do any of those work as a loop as well as battery operated? If so, I'd be walking around my apartment playing non-stop.

I don't get what you mean by "as a loop".

If you're asking about power supplies, I know that the Korgs have DC-in jacks, but you have to obtain the cords seperately, except maybe the Pandora Stomp. I've never bought one, myself- I always use batteries.

The Px4 comes with a clip that lets you thread your strap through it, so you can wander around. I usually just hang it out of my back pocket or off my belt.

I've been trying to find a smartphone belt pouch to fit my Px5, but no luck so far.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#11
No you don't need a computer with the POD

I just looked at Ebay.uk, there are a few Line 6 POD XT (beans) for <80GBP with shipping and those are the buy it now listings.

With your budget you won't find a better practice tool.
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2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#12
Ok guys, I think I've just made a madness: I bought myself a Line 6 Pod xt Live...what do you think about it? Can I use it without necessarily having an amp and playing through headphones, right?
#13
Quote by lespaolo io
Ok guys, I think I've just made a madness: I bought myself a Line 6 Pod xt Live...what do you think about it? Can I use it without necessarily having an amp and playing through headphones, right?

Yep, they are good. No amp needed, plug your headphones into the XT Live and your good to go.

You also have the ability to use it with an amp if you want or for recording to a computer.
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#14
Congratz! Sounds like a winner!
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