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-MintSauce-
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#1
I've started this thread to keep track of a few projects that I started on here. They all have their own threads, but I'm not working in any obvious order, they're a nightmare to update, and they're a nightmare to follow. I also don't want to clutter the forum when I start something new.

Projects:
My second build (Completed - could do with rewiring and fret levelling)
Third Build - SF24 (Neck in progress)
Poplar SF24 (Neck almost complete)
Random star build (TBC)
-MintSauce-
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#2
I've bought a couple of new tools recently. The first is a 12" thicknesser:


It doesn't look like much, but it's very cool. I've made the two superstrats a lot slimmer (43mm) and they're now perfectly level on the front and back. I'm also not happy with the black pearloid binding on the poplar one, so I've ordered a wider strip (10mm) to install instead - I'll be routing the channel out again when it arrives.

The other investment is a fingerboard slotting jig (24 frets, 25.5" scale):










I took lots of pictures for such a simple task, which only took ~30 minutes. Gone are the days of measuring, marking, scoring and sawing... thankfully. I'll be able to get the board glued in tomorrow and make some progress with the sapele neck.
bobafettacheese
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#3
Did you get the jig through stew mac? I have the materials to build a neck, sap eke neck with ziricote fretboard. I'm honestly just very hesitant about starting to build it. Don't mind buying a few things but I'd like to know essentials.
Gibson-DC standard, PRS S2 Mira, Ibanez RG570, Schecter Banshee 7, Fender HWY1 tele, Reverend Manta Ray 290, Charvel Pro mod
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100, Peavey 5150, 2-2x12's
Misc. Pedals
-MintSauce-
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#5
Quote by bobafettacheese
Did you get the jig through stew mac? I have the materials to build a neck, sap eke neck with ziricote fretboard. I'm honestly just very hesitant about starting to build it. Don't mind buying a few things but I'd like to know essentials.


The jig was from an eBay fella from the UK - it's like the Stewmac one, but a lot simpler. Just take your time with it and make sure that you plane/prepare all of your surfaces perfectly. If you're not great with a hand plane (like me), then a bench planer or pre-prepared stock is essential. You'll need a router or bandsaw for cutting the neck taper, router for the truss rod channel, drill press for tuner holes, rasp set for shaping the volute and heel, and a spokeshave for joining the two up. For the fingerboard, you'll need the planing lark, 0.57mm kerf slotting saw, radius sanding block, fret press or hammer and then bits and bobs for levelling. I take ages over stuff, so I just buy tools when I need them, which spreads the cost out nicely.


Quote by Explorerbuilder
Nice. New tools are always fun.
I would have gotten at least a 13" Planer though. That way you can actually fit a strat body through it after its glued.


Yeah, I know what you mean. This one is 318mm (so 12.5"?), which will take a slightly slimmer Strat or Tele, but most things are out of the question. They seem to sell for stupid money after the 12" mark.
-MintSauce-
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#6
I did a lot of sanding on this one today. I had to smooth out the contours with a drum sander, then work the marks out by hand. Afterwards, I routed a fresh, deeper binding channel to take the 10mm stuff. I did clean the channels up after taking the pictures.


bobafettacheese
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#7
Thanks for the heads up as well as the grocery list of tools. Thankfully my dad has a couple of the more expensive ones.
OT: looks great so far. I love watching a build from I start to finish
Gibson-DC standard, PRS S2 Mira, Ibanez RG570, Schecter Banshee 7, Fender HWY1 tele, Reverend Manta Ray 290, Charvel Pro mod
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL100, Peavey 5150, 2-2x12's
Misc. Pedals
-MintSauce-
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#8
Quote by bobafettacheese
Thanks for the heads up as well as the grocery list of tools. Thankfully my dad has a couple of the more expensive ones.
OT: looks great so far. I love watching a build from I start to finish


No worries! Keep an eye on this forum - there's a lot of talent here, even if people are rather quiet.


Here are some updates from the past couple of days. I tried a different method for the binding, which seems to have worked out okay. Instead of binding paste or CA, I bought some UHU Hart glue. The initial tack wasn't there strong, but it cleaned up nicely and didn't stain the wood at all! I've used a cabinet scraper to trim all of the binding top down before, which takes ages and isn't very stable. This time, I use a chisel running flat with the body, then tidied up with the scraper. Only the two sides are finished - I still need to attack the rear and cutaways.

Anyway, the result is a lot better:





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#9
My templates arrived today! After lots of drawing in Inkscape and some horrendous quotes, I finally got the stuff laser cut.

I have templates for:
Body,
Neck,
Neck pocket,
Headstock,
Battery cavity and cover,
Control cavity and cover,
Direct-mount humbuckers.



-MintSauce-
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#10
I did a bit of work on the poplar guitar today. The neck was rough as hell, so I tidied up the volute, reshaped the heel and fixed the entire profile. I still need to route the neck pocket a little deeper and dial the neck pitch in.

Pictures of stuff:






Silord1
Silord1
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#11
You've got some world class skill there mate, I'd love to get the results your getting!

Patience and practice I guess.

I did my first fret dress last night to fix a buzzing fret with success and not too bad results, any advice on best practice or what methods to use?
-MintSauce-
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#12
There's nothing world class going on here! I'm still correcting mistakes and fighting to make progress, because I was so eager (impatient, perhaps) to get moving with these two guitars. In fact, I've actually started a new project recently, which is going very smoothly with the benefit of experience. I won't waste anyone's time until it's complete though... I don't want to be one of those guys.

My best advice would be to follow the work of Perry Ormsby and Sully Guitars. IMHO, Perry builds some of the best guitars in the world, and his work emphasises the importance of accuracy. Sully is a more modest builder, but his stuff is still top notch - he does it whilst holding down a full-time job and a family, which makes him more relatable. Oh, and he has a great YouTube channel. Both guys are massive, friendly guitar nerds too.

I suck at set-ups and fretwork. I used a radius block to level my last bunch of frets, then one of those Hosco files for crowning and needle files for the dressing. It was a massive pain in the backside, so I'm going to follow Sully's method for my next lot.
Silord1
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#13
Fair enough mate I'll checkout the videos, thanks

I started messing with guitars out of necessity cause I couldn't afford good gear so was always trying to improve them any way I could.

I built my own from scratch a bout 2 years back but I was too impatient and made some easily avoided mistakes, I'm thinking of doing another though so I'll play close attention to this thread, I love how your showing the gear your using its a great idea, it's made me decide to make some new tools for my workshop already! (Such as the fretting jig - simple but genius)

Good job
-MintSauce-
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#16
Quote by von Layzonfon
Nice templates! Could I ask how much they set you back? I'm not actually planning on making any more guitars for the foreseeable but this looks like a better option for templates than making my own from MDF.


I'm not sure how cost-effective they're actually going to be, but they seemed like a good way of getting my drawings accurately translated into something physical. The total was ~£63 including P&P and materials. The best plan is to use them as master copies to keep making new MDF ones.

Quote by Ippon
Dang! Pretty soon you'll be spending extra funds on even more tools. So envious of the dedication and skill that building requires!

Congrats!



Thanks man! I just want to get better and have a hobby for when I'm super old.
Silord1
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#17
That was always my plan. I was gonna build guitars as a hobby and be super good at it by my older years!

This threads got me set on the idea to build again, I'm gonna start gearing my workshop up for it as soon as my current projects are finished 😀
-MintSauce-
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Quote by Silord1
That was always my plan. I was gonna build guitars as a hobby and be super good at it by my older years!

This threads got me set on the idea to build again, I'm gonna start gearing my workshop up for it as soon as my current projects are finished 😀


That's the best way to think about any new hobby. Most people worry, because they'll be rubbish when they start... instead of thinking about how awesome they'll be in 5, 10, 20 years time! Buying tools can be as nice, slow process too.

Don't be afraid to get cracking and whack some threads up!
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#19
I was feeling wild today, so I made a drilling template for a Gotoh GTC102 bridge from acrylic waste... also featuring a centre line and scale marker line.



Off the hook.
-MintSauce-
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Quote by Ippon
Any plans to build a Tele?


I was actually planning to make one after my newest project, but something closer to an ESP Throbber or Schecter PT... still singlecoils though. We'll see!
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#22
Okay, I'm going to be brave and post my 2014 guitar. I think that I've managed to avoid previous pitfalls and it's going to be okay (touch wood).



Body: One-piece wenge
Top: Bookmatched zebrano
Neck: 3-piece wenge, with flamed maple veneers (not really 5-ply, just pretty)
Fingerboard: Ebony (25.5" scale, 24 frets, gold MOP dots).

I'm using a Gotoh GTC102 bridge, so there's no need for a neck angle (thankfully). As soon as the neck pocket is cut, I can check the neck pitch and break angle at the nut... then stop panicking.
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Quote by Explorerbuilder
I didnt even realize that was you that was posting on PG with this project.
I do really like that combination. And zebrawood offers so many different ways to finish.


I'm going to take that as a compliment! I hate my username on here.

Choosing the finish is probably going to be the hardest part, but there's plenty of time!

Quote by Silord1
Very nice mate, looks great so far


Thanks, fella!
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#26
Quote by -MintSauce-







Build me one!
I shouldn't post when drunk..



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#27
Quote by Carrot
Build me one!


Just wait until it's finished... who knows how it's actually going to turn out

Body meets binding







Rusty_Chisel
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#29
how did it die? my Bosch router needs to be taken apart every now and then to clean out the switch. good engineer design to not seal the switch on something that generates so much fine dust.
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Quote by Rusty_Chisel
how did it die? my Bosch router needs to be taken apart every now and then to clean out the switch. good engineer design to not seal the switch on something that generates so much fine dust.


I'm not sure TBH. It gave me grief with a little wobble last week, then just started making strange noises and cut out - it sounded like there was a mini diesel engine inside it, just spluttering and dying. Anyway, I did check the switch and speed control, which are both clean... but it's several years old and only cost £40!

Edit: I discovered that my dad's Trend router has a separate 1/4" collet, so I finished it off with that!



Ormsby test:
-MintSauce-
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#33
Quote by Silord1
That's looking wicked matey


Quote by von Layzonfon
I'm really liking this one.


Thank you, chaps!

I've spent today making templates, tidying my tools and clearing benches. With any luck, I'll be able to get the rest of the routing done tomorrow!
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#34
The routing is almost finished. I managed to get the pickup cavities and strew recesses routed today, then drilled holes here and there for stuff like the bridge, screws and string-through ferrules. There's a neck pickup wire channel somewhere too.

Routed:




Hardware dry fit:




(The neck pickups is balancing on the neck tenon in the last picture. I still need to shave it down by ~15mm)

Now it's time to order the rest of my black nickel hardware.
Silord1
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#35
That's looking truly awesome man, I wish my stuff was anywhere near that good!

Have you sold any yet and if so what sort of return do you get?
-MintSauce-
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#36
Quote by Silord1
That's looking truly awesome man, I wish my stuff was anywhere near that good!

Have you sold any yet and if so what sort of return do you get?


I'm really pleased with it so far. Fingers crossed and touch wood for no catastrophes!

Assuming that nothing bad happens, this will only be the second guitar that I've finished. It'll also be proof of the method and measurements, whcih should be repeatable on the next one. I'd love to use this is a prototype for a standard model, then make a few to sell and test the water - we're talking more basic though, with a bolt-on and no binding.

Just think about quality and method as you go along and imagine it'll be finished without paint... and under scrutiny
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#38
Quote by Ippon
Beautiful! That'll look awesome with a natural finish (no tint) or TransBlack. I'd install Motor City PUs though.

BTW, how'd you come up with Mintsauce?


Or maybe even some light blue stain and Tru-Oil?

MintSauce is a mountain biking sheep from MBUK magazine... I made this account a long time ago!

I did some routing on the back today:


There's either a dodgy shadow or some wood dust in the battery cavity there, but it's actually perfectly clear now :\
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#40
I've not done anything this weekend, but I did get some carving started either Thursday or Friday (I can't remember which, because life).



It's a belly carve. A carve for your belly.

Or, in my case, a carve for ribs.