#1
when working on efficiency of motion with your fretting hand (getting rid of the wild pinky and such) for your fingers to feel like you're working on new muscles in them? My fingers were getting tired by trying to make sure they all didn't stray far from the strings while playing a tasty lick. My main question is if it could be bad to work on it for too long? I've been playing guitar on and off for almost 9 years... the wrong way. I won't be able to get past Hetfield at this point. I love Metallica, I'm just talking smack.
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#2
I went through the same thing when I was trying to fix my pinky. My fingers didn't really get tired though, it just felt a little weird since my brain was telling them not to move, but my muscle memory was still trying to force them to move. And that's really all that your issue is too. You need to make your fingers forget what they currently know and teach them the right way.
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when working on efficiency of motion with your fretting hand (getting rid of the wild pinky and such) for your fingers to feel like you're working on new muscles in them? My fingers were getting tired by trying to make sure they all didn't stray far from the strings while playing a tasty lick. My main question is if it could be bad to work on it for too long? I've been playing guitar on and off for almost 9 years... the wrong way. I won't be able to get past Hetfield at this point. I love Metallica, I'm just talking smack.


The problem is that you're trying too hard to keep your fingers close to the fretboard. What you need to be going for with the fretting hand isn't to force yourself in to economy of motion but as much relaxation as possible.

What I mean by that is that when you're done using a fretting finger you shouldn't be lifting it to a certain height or anything but simply not fretting any more. Literally just relax your finger and it should only come off the fret board by a few millimetres.

Of course this is harder than it sounds but the point is that you shouldn't be forcing your fingers to stay at a certain height; that way lies tension and excess tension is the enemy!

Also be aware that this isn't something that you just get one day and boom you can do it. You have to practice this carefully over the course of years and it gradually filters in to your playing as you get better at it and your fingers get more used to doing it.
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-The problem is that you're trying too hard to keep your fingers close to the fretboard. What you need to be going for with the fretting hand isn't to force yourself in to economy of motion but as much relaxation as possible.

What I mean by that is that when you're done using a fretting finger you shouldn't be lifting it to a certain height or anything but simply not fretting any more. Literally just relax your finger and it should only come off the fret board by a few millimetres.

-Of course this is harder than it sounds but the point is that you shouldn't be forcing your fingers to stay at a certain height; that way lies tension and excess tension is the enemy!

-Also be aware that this isn't something that you just get one day and boom you can do it. You have to practice this carefully over the course of years and it gradually filters in to your playing as you get better at it and your fingers get more used to doing it.
-That makes perfect sense.
-That's what I was worried about. I'm glad you know what's up.
-For sure. Years of doing it wrong will take years to fix.

Thank you a bunch.
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#5
I had the same issue as you. I tried hard to make pinky stay close to the strings. But it was completely wrong and I ended up injuring my hand. It started to hurt and I spent one month not able to play at all. Now I am better but I got my lesson. Don't make same mistakes. Just relax and follow the advice above.

Also don't worry to much about pinky. Look at how Eric Johnson plays, his pink is flying all over the fretboard.
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Also don't worry to much about pinky. Look at how Eric Johnson plays, his pink is flying all over the fretboard.


agreed. plenty of really good/fast players' fingers go all over the place. the technique's a means to an end (IMO), not the end in itself. if you can play what you need to play and it's not holding you back (some brutal honesty is needed, but still), there's no real problem.
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#7
I know it's a little late, but thank you for the above 2 replies. I don't know how to keep my fingers relaxed. When I push down on a string with one finger, it's like I need another finger to go up a little bit to give it strength. Once I'm in the zone, I've never had a problem with my speed. I'm not a shredder but I can play fast enough for what I want to play.
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#8
no worries

yeah if it's not holding you back I wouldn't worry about it. you could do more harm than good (as evidenced by some of the posts in this thread) by trying to fix something that's not really broken.
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