#1
Hey guys so i have been looking at amps for a while and it was between the peavey bandit 112 and the peavey valveking 212. I think i have decided on the bandit just because the valveking has more of a hard rock tone and the bandit can push those nice crunchy metal tones which is what im looking for. The peavey bandit can also produce a pretty nice clean although i dont use it to often i would like for it to be there. anyway i was wondering if i should find one used or buy a new one. of course new is going to be better but for the price a used one is an option. i have a few questions.

Will i need to change a bunch of stuff out of i buy a used one?

Will a new one last longer then a used one will?

Is the extra money spent worth getting a new one?

Just in general what would the better choice be?

Thanks
#2
Yeah dude everyone was raving about how decent of an amp the Bandit was in your other thread.

You're probably better off buying new, that way you know it's new.

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#3
Why did you rule out the Peavey Ultra that everyone suggested in your old thread?

And for your questions: Buy used, you won't have to change anything out except maybe the tubes (but I would also recommend changing the tubes in 90% of all new amps)
#5
Quote by DeathByDestroyr
Yeah dude everyone was raving about how decent of an amp the Bandit was in your other thread.

People think this is a good amp? We have one at our space and that thing sux, I mean it powers up and functions but I can't remember if it had any tone, probably because it didn't have any it just has volume. If you were in my area, I'd give it to u for free but you'd have to pick it up.

I would go with the Valve King over the Bandit. I mean just consider the name, "Bandit." Never trust a Bandit, that means u will feel like that thing stole ur money after u bought it.

I've never owned a VK but you can probably push it into the metal territory you want with a Tubescreamer/Maxon/Green Rhino/Joyo Classic OD, etc. The Bandit might have a little more gain or whatnot, but it's the Bandit version of that sound.

On any Peavey combo you will probably want to change the speaker. V30-styled speakers seem to be a common upgrade.
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#6
Quote by cGoEcYk
People think this is a good amp? We have one at our space and that thing sux
Yeah most reviews and stuff i have seen are good. I do think that the valveking would be a nice choice i just dont think from what i have seen that you can get a really heavy crunch from it for stuff like metallica and other class metal tones.
#7
Get a used Peavey Ultra combo
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#8
Used Peavey Ultra or VTM


What's your budget?
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#9
Hm seems like im getting a lot of peavey ultra recommendations so i think im going to look into that. and my budget is like 400 at the most but i would like to spend less then 300 (USD)
#10
They have a peavey ultra 1x12 combo for $249 here
www.guitarcenter.com/usedgear
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#11
Yeah im seeing that and that is currently the cheapest amp i am seeing that i have taken a look at
#12
Is the VTM the JCM800 copy?

If you're in the US, have you checked craigslist? $400 can get a pretty good amp if you're patient and picky.
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#13
seriously watch a few good youtube videos, the Ultra is a hidden Gem in amps.
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#14
Quote by lucky1978
Is the VTM the JCM800 copy?

Kinda, but a modified 800 with selector switches on the front panel so you can pick which mods you want to use. The original Peavey Butcher was the JCM800 clone
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#15
Do you think it would be worth it get the the 2x12 or is the 1x12 good enough for me to just play by myself in my room and play with 1 or 2 friends?
#16
Quote by Enemy98
Do you think it would be worth it get the the 2x12 or is the 1x12 good enough for me to just play by myself in my room and play with 1 or 2 friends?

The 1x12 is fine and loud. You can always hook another cab to the amp easy. 2x12 tube combos are heavy as hell also
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#17
Quote by Robbgnarly
Kinda, but a modified 800 with selector switches on the front panel so you can pick which mods you want to use. The original Peavey Butcher was the JCM800 clone

WTF? How can they be so cheap? I haven't tried one but I've seen them dirt cheap. So cheap I immediately dismissed them. Now I've been keeping an eye out for one.
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#18
Just buy the Ultra FFS. How many people have to tell you it's the better amp?
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#19
Quote by lucky1978
WTF? How can they be so cheap? I haven't tried one but I've seen them dirt cheap. So cheap I immediately dismissed them. Now I've been keeping an eye out for one.

Yeah, if you want a solid HR JCM800 amp you really can't beat them. The only thing is the head-shell's are ugly as hell
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#20
Quote by Cathbard
Just buy the Ultra FFS. How many people have to tell you it's the better amp?


Yeah that is pretty much what im thinking of getting just asking if i should pick up a 212 or just a 112
#21
The 1x12 will be plenty loud, but if you want the 2x12 is a great amp only a bit heavy
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#22
If you are just playing by yourself or jamming occasionally the 1x12 will be more than adequate and a lot easier to manage. Later if you start gigging seriously you can always buy a different cab for it.
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#23
Quote by lucky1978
WTF? How can they be so cheap? I haven't tried one but I've seen them dirt cheap. So cheap I immediately dismissed them. Now I've been keeping an eye out for one.
They're not the prettiest amp and nobody knows about them, that's why. Buy one while they're still cheap . Check out Baroness's Red and Blue album to hear what one's all about.
Quote by Robbgnarly
Yeah, if you want a solid HR JCM800 amp you really can't beat them. The only thing is the head-shell's are ugly as hell
And god awful heavy, that headshell adds so much weight. My VTM is without question the heaviest amp I've owned. 5150/6505 headshells fit the amp perfectly though, a lot of people have done that swap.
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