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#1
As we're coming up on the anniversary of the Pearl Harbor attack, here's something that most people here probably didn't know about.

There were these Japanese soldier holdouts who refused to surrender after WW2 ended and continued fighting, some for a very long time.
Check out this article about these crazy holdouts who refused to surrender:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout

Some of them didn’t believe that the war was over, so they continued fighting for 10, 20 years and even longer, in remote parts of Pacific islands. They ended up fighting local police long after the U.S. military left.

And then there was this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda

You think that’s normal behavior for a soldier?
I mean there was a lot of indoctrination in the Japanese army, but how in the world could a soldier think that the war is still going on after over 30 years? Has any war in modern history lasted that long? What was he thinking?

In fact, that guy Lt. Onoda didn’t even surrender in the end, technically. It took his former commander in the army, who was still alive, to fly all the way to the Phillipines and personally relieve him of duty.
When he returned to Japan almost 30 years after WW2 ended, he said he was dismayed by how Japan had changed. He had lived in a time capsule, he missed the 1950s, the turbulent 1960s, the Vietnam War, and when he got back to Japan, women had ditched their kimonos for short mini skirts.

I mean it seems like some of the Japanese soldiers were just nuts--just plain insane.
How about their allies (Germany)--were there any Nazi soldiers that held out for 30 years like these japanese nut cases?

I'm 1/4 Japanese and sometimes when I read about these things, I feel like hanging my head down in shame.
#2
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#3
Dont feel so bad, you're weren't born during WW2.
Most of the important things


in the world have been accomplished


by people who have kept on


trying when there seemed to be no hope at all
#5
30 years? So they're like 50-60?
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#7
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I'm 1/4 Japanese and sometimes when I read about these things, I feel like hanging my head down in shame.


There's other things about Japan you should be ashamed of, like the dakimakuras.
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#8
I'm still fighting the french from 1066, get on my level
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#10
soz

they came from northern france though
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#12
thanks bby, I didnt mean it
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#13
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Dont feel so bad, you're weren't born during WW2.


Yeah, I know.
But it's not just this, the Japanese soldiers were extremely brutal, not just to U.S. Marines, but to civilians.
In the Nanking Massacre in 1937, the japanese soldiers would cut open pregnant women, and stick the fetus on their bayonets and parade it around the street, they would gang rape babies and 80 year old ladies. In the Phillipines massacre, the japanese soldiers not only raped women, but raped the men and children too.

They were just awful
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#14
Technically North Korea is still at war with South Korea, they're still in a "ceasefire".
It all comes down to the ideology they were raised and taught with, you know?
#15
the germans and soviets werent much better to each other tbh
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30 years? So they're like 50-60?


WW2 ended in 1945.

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the germans and soviets werent much better to each other tbh


Can we just consolidate this. Every country ever who has been at war has been horrible at some point.
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#18
war is bad
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#19
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Technically North Korea is still at war with South Korea, they're still in a "ceasefire"
.


True.

But WW2 came to a definite end though,
unlike the Korean War
#20
Oh, I remember you. You're that guy who made like 2 other threads about how the Japanese were before and during WWII.
Skip the username, call me Billy
#21
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#22
So 30 years ago the guys gave up after 30 years?
The Titanic sank too.
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So 30 years ago the guys gave up after 30 years?
The Titanic sank too.


The Titanic was real?
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#25
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So 30 years ago the guys gave up after 30 years?
The Titanic sank too.


no
the last confirmed holdout was in 1974

although there were rumours of other holdouts....
#26
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I'm 1/4 Japanese and sometimes when I read about these things, I feel like hanging my head down in shame.


for soldiers showing unwavering loyalty to their country?

I'm half croatian. You wouldn't believe the animosity a lot of my people still have towards the serbs and vice versa. there are kids being born now who werent even ALIVE during the war who hate serbs because of their parents indoctrinating them from a young age. That's ignoring the many, many adults who lived through the war, and will continue to mentally be "at war" with serbia for the rest of their lives.

scars delivered in war take a long, long time to heal.
#27
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no
the last confirmed holdout was in 1974

although there were rumours of other holdouts....

So 29 years ago guys gave up after 29 years.
The Hindenburg blew up too.

Wtf is your point?
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for soldiers showing unwavering loyalty to their country?
.


I don't know if you can call that loyalty....

To me, the word that comes to me is just insanity.

There's also all their atrocities they commited, but just on the holding out alone, it's just bizarre
#29
Honestly being that faithful is kind of admirable.


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#30
Once again, mattmahaka posts again solely to inform us of common shit we already knew about ww2 but its really important we know again

im done
#31
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So 29 years ago guys gave up after 29 years.
The Hindenburg blew up too.

Wtf is your point?


You're trolling, right?
So how am I supposed to take anything you say seriously,
when you've swapped free will for faith, hope and pre-destiny?
#32
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Honestly being that faithful is kind of admirable.


Admirable?

I don't know.
At one time, I used to think that.
Like how they used to charge at U.S. marines firing machine guns at them.

Then I changed my mind and just considered them insane.
They would run directly at machine gun fire, just nuts.
Which is part of the reason that for the most part, Japanese casualties were generally higher than American casualties during the island hopping campaign.
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Admirable?

I don't know.
At one time, I used to think that.
Like how they used to charge at U.S. marines firing machine guns at them.

Then I changed my mind and just considered them insane.
They would run directly at machine gun fire, just nuts.
Which is part of the reason that for the most part, Japanese casualties were generally higher than American casualties during the island hopping campaign.


insane, or beyond brave? this is the stupidest argument i've ever heard. Some people would see that as pants-shitting bravery, others would consider it insanity. pointless.
#34
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So 29 years ago guys gave up after 29 years.
The Hindenburg blew up too.

Wtf is your point?


#35
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#36
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I don't know if you can call that loyalty....

To me, the word that comes to me is just insanity.

There's also all their atrocities they commited, but just on the holding out alone, it's just bizarre


It is loyalty. To your previous question regarding if Germans would have done so, if there were group of them stationed on an isolated island like the Japanese hold outs, sure.

As for the atrocites, the soldiers of every country in every war commit them. The victors write the history so they tend to gloss over theirs..
#37
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Yeah, I know.
But it's not just this, the Japanese soldiers were extremely brutal, not just to U.S. Marines, but to civilians.
In the Nanking Massacre in 1937, the japanese soldiers would cut open pregnant women, and stick the fetus on their bayonets and parade it around the street, they would gang rape babies and 80 year old ladies. In the Phillipines massacre, the japanese soldiers not only raped women, but raped the men and children too.

They were just awful
edit: I just realized this is the same guy who made the other japan threads.

Calm down bruf, you're also responsible for these things:



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#38
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I'm 1/2 Japanese and sometimes when I read about these things, I feel like hanging my head down in shame.

My reaction to this thread.

You seriously harbor a sense of personal shame over what some guys did decades ago who you share nothing with apart from some socially constructed identity?

You deserve your self-loathing, not because of what any japanese person has done, but because you have a moronic world view and a contemptible, navel-gazing hangup about things well outside of your control.

STFU
#39
Crazy ass Japanese's

Edit: lol @ Mr Takeshimselftooseriously above me
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