#1
Howdy peeps, possibly a stupid question, possibly not. A youtube comment I read has probably confused me when it shouldn't have at all but just to be safe I thought I'd ask on here if only for my sanity.

Basically I've recorded demos for my band and other bands for a while now, always used an 8 channel audio interface. Sounds great for what I need it for. I've recently been thinking about ways to get more channels with XLR inputs and 8 channels seems to be the limit you can get with audio interfaces. This has lead me to look at the possibility of using mixing desks with 10-16 xlr inputs on them.

Now my question is is it actually possible to use a mixing desk as an audio interface or assuming I had a desk that was capable of doing so, from the comment I read on youtube it seems that you can only use no more than two channels to record at any one time as opposed to all 8 on an audio interface. Am I talking total rubbish or is that true?

If it IS true then what ways is it possible for me to get more than 8 xlr inputs that I can track a full band live with? 8 just ain't enough anymore!

Hope this made sense, cheers!
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Side note I've looked at Peavey PV20 Usb mixing desks and Alto ZMX164FX USB mixing desks so far, don't have a huge budget sadly
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#3
Mixings desks are control surfaces... all the outputs from a mixing will go into an interface anyway.

You need an interface, you don't need a mixing desk.
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#4
Hmmmm I was right to ask then!

What options do I have really then to get more than 8 channels? If I can somehow double that that would be perfect, ideally I'd like to have more channels for micing up a drum kit, bass + a DI too etc. Multi-tracking live is the way I like to record really
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#5
You'll be looking at things like the Saffire Pro24 or Scarlett 18i8.

Honestly that part of the interface world isn't my speciality, but hopefully someone with a little more knowledge will come about at some point!
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#6
I would start at your software and come back what is the best hardware for THAT software.

if your aiming to record 16 channels your talking pretty specialized hardware and you want it to run perfectly with the software you have chosen.

example if your running Cubase far better off buying Steinberg/Cubase hardware and if your using Protools best to start looking at Avid gear. if you want other options sure many are out there But better to do alot of reading and checking users reviews before buying anything so ALL those 16 channel come in without any issues.

also 16 channel interface is ALOT different to your standard 2 channel usb device.
you don't get preamp's in most 16 channel interfaces.
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#7
You can often daisy-chain interfaces together. For instance, I get 16 channels into Cubase (each channel with its own preamp) by using:

Steinberg MR816 (first 8 best quality inputs)
Behringer ADA8000 (decent 8 inputs)

The Behringer connects to the MR816 via ADAT cable.

Cubase "sees" all 16 channels as discrete inputs.

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#8
^ This. It's not daisy chaining interfaces though.

The Behringer ADA is 8 channels of mic preamp/AD converters (not an interface), and is your best (budget) option if your interface has an ADAT input.
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I would start at your software and come back what is the best hardware for THAT software.

if your aiming to record 16 channels your talking pretty specialized hardware and you want it to run perfectly with the software you have chosen.

example if your running Cubase far better off buying Steinberg/Cubase hardware and if your using Protools best to start looking at Avid gear. if you want other options sure many are out there But better to do alot of reading and checking users reviews before buying anything so ALL those 16 channel come in without any issues.

also 16 channel interface is ALOT different to your standard 2 channel usb device.
you don't get preamp's in most 16 channel interfaces.

Um... What?

Dude, if you're recording 16 channels you usually have something with an ADAT in that has 8 ins as is. Focusrite/MOTU/whoever stuff works fine.
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Um... What?

Dude, if you're recording 16 channels you usually have something with an ADAT in that has 8 ins as is. Focusrite/MOTU/whoever stuff works fine.


Um... What?

so your advice is buy the cheapest one. it will work No need to do research because oneblackened know his SH&# .. ?


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#11
Most audio interface are usable if you have 2 of them.
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#12
Cheers guys! You all definitely steered me in the correct direction, done a bit more research into it and I've now purchased a Focusrite 18i20 interface with plans on adding the Octopre when I can afford it.

Going to have to sell my current interface now, sadly it doesn't have any ADAT capabilities so it's gotta go! The focusrite preamps are probably a lot better though anyway so I'm a happy bunny!

Cheers guys
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