#1
Well its time for me to get some real monitors. My recording space is pretty small (my bedroom). I have my desk in the corner of the room and there is lots of furnature (dressers, bed, desk). I plan on mounting my tv to the wall, removing a dresser, and getting and L desk so the room is more open and i have more space to work.

Im thinking about the rokit 5's or 6's, they seem to be the default for bedroom producers. Was wondering if there may be a better option for the money in recording in a fairly small room?

What do you guys use?
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Rokit's tend to be massively bass hyped and not really good for a small room.

What's your budget?
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#3
Pretty much anything in the same price range of the Rokits are better. Theyre great as a second reference set, but they have a very hyped lowend with a significant mid cut, which leads to very little clarity in the frequency ranges that matter most in your mix.
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#4
Mixing on Rokits is like mixing on Bose headphones. It doesn't work. At that price point, the best things to buy are either Yamaha HS5s or Equator D5s.
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Im not trying to spend a ton of money but i dont mind buying something i wont need to replace. a couple hundred, something reasonable.
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The upper end of the Behringer Truth series, should be spot on.
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Meh, Rokits seem to be like Marmite these days - as far as I'm concerned, they're better than most of the stuff in their price range… maybe I just know their shape too well Anyway, try some speakers out for yourself and see what you think (take along some tracks you know inside out, and have heard on enough systems to know how it SHOULD sound).

They have an extended low end, certainly, but the more I became accustomed to it the more it didn't seem hyped. As for the midrange… I disagree with Matrix, I think they have a far better midrange (and more prominent) than most speakers in the range. Put it this way, KRK are one of the few companies in the price range who actually give out accurate and detailed product specs, and the Gen 2 Rokits are all far flatter than much of the competitors in that part of the market. Haven't seen a spec sheet for Equator D5's, but I'm not trying to say Rokits are the absolute best

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Mixing on Rokits is like mixing on Bose headphones. It doesn't work.

Sorry, but this is utter bollocks Nobody has complained about my mixes and while I wouldn't rate them up with the professionals, Metal Hammer magazine reviewed my band's last album (7/10, with a great write-up) which was mixed over 2 years ago now and didn't mention a single thing about the production… I'm a damn better engineer now than I was then, and I can hear plenty of flaws in the production, myself, but that was down to user error/being on a budget with the actual recording itself, and not because the speakers were masking anything.

Say what you want, but they are damn flat speakers and even though I don't care about comparisons regarding preference for other monitors (D5's are great; HS series Yamahas are good, I just hate the way they originally marketed them), I don't really like people claiming things that aren't true just because they don't like a product

Even the Rokit 5's, which are the least accurate, have a freq. response of something like 53Hz to 20kHz with an accuracy of ±1.5dB max variation. That is to say that all the way between those two frequencies, they are no more than positive or negative 1.5dB away from being flat. Show me the response of Behringer Truths, for example, if you can find a frequency spec detailing their accuracy
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#9
That's just my experience Derek, you know that.
I just find Rokits to be really, REALLY flattering.
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#10
Derek is Matrix; I'm Steve Each to their own, I just wanted to point out that while many don't like the low end on Rokits they are actually really accurate... maybe other monitors in the range just tend to lack low end power/clarity and punch?
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Meh, Rokits seem to be like Marmite these days - as far as I'm concerned, they're better than most of the stuff in their price range… maybe I just know their shape too well Anyway, try some speakers out for yourself and see what you think (take along some tracks you know inside out, and have heard on enough systems to know how it SHOULD sound).

They have an extended low end, certainly, but the more I became accustomed to it the more it didn't seem hyped. As for the midrange… I disagree with Matrix, I think they have a far better midrange (and more prominent) than most speakers in the range. Put it this way, KRK are one of the few companies in the price range who actually give out accurate and detailed product specs, and the Gen 2 Rokits are all far flatter than much of the competitors in that part of the market. Haven't seen a spec sheet for Equator D5's, but I'm not trying to say Rokits are the absolute best


Sorry, but this is utter bollocks Nobody has complained about my mixes and while I wouldn't rate them up with the professionals, Metal Hammer magazine reviewed my band's last album (7/10, with a great write-up) which was mixed over 2 years ago now and didn't mention a single thing about the production… I'm a damn better engineer now than I was then, and I can hear plenty of flaws in the production, myself, but that was down to user error/being on a budget with the actual recording itself, and not because the speakers were masking anything.

Say what you want, but they are damn flat speakers and even though I don't care about comparisons regarding preference for other monitors (D5's are great; HS series Yamahas are good, I just hate the way they originally marketed them), I don't really like people claiming things that aren't true just because they don't like a product

Even the Rokit 5's, which are the least accurate, have a freq. response of something like 53Hz to 20kHz with an accuracy of ±1.5dB max variation. That is to say that all the way between those two frequencies, they are no more than positive or negative 1.5dB away from being flat. Show me the response of Behringer Truths, for example, if you can find a frequency spec detailing their accuracy

I just want to offer a quick vote of support to this, I've been using Rokit 5s for a few years now (key words: YEARS) and they're great. Then again, anything mostly flat that you use for a few years and reference all of your favorite mixes on will be great for monitoring on. Just make sure to use them a lot, it's all about the time you spend with the monitors.

That said, no matter how much time you spend with crappy stereo speakers, they're not gonna be much help. The rokit 5s are on the lower end of what will work well.

THAT said, I have loads of money to upgrade my monitors with, but I don't have loads of time to spend getting accustomed to a new type of monitor, so I will not be upgrading until I have the time to spend on learning how whatever my next monitor is will represent my favorite albums and my mixes.
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Derek is Matrix; I'm Steve Each to their own, I just wanted to point out that while many don't like the low end on Rokits they are actually really accurate... maybe other monitors in the range just tend to lack low end power/clarity and punch?

God damn, I thought you were MC since I know he has a set of Rokits too
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Nah, I sold them. Don't have enough room on my desk with 3 computer monitors. They were cool for referencing the mixes I do on my HS80Ms, but I've found those speakers to translate so well for me, that I don't need to reference on anything else, really
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#14
I even said "I disagree with Matrix" about one point, in my post - he'd hardly start an argument with himself, surely?
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I even said "I disagree with Matrix" about one point, in my post - he'd hardly start an argument with himself, surely?

It would be fun to see him try.
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So i should check out the equator D5s and the behringer truth series? Haha cool, thanks guys!
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D5's are great, but I think they might be a little pricey?
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So i should check out the equator D5s and the behringer truth series? Haha cool, thanks guys!

I'm saying you should keep your mind open and actually try out and listen to some monitors. As in, go to the largest music store you can reasonably get to (or better yet, to a place specialisng in pro-audio/studio gear with a test room) and play back some mixes you know well, through the various monitors.

Try out the Rokits (there's a new range out now), try out the D5's, try out the Yamaha HS series, and try out the Truths if you want (lockwolf loves his, I am not so keen on them) as well as other stuff you have available to you.

It's no good us just listing the brands/models we like, they need to be ones you find easy to work with and that will suit you. Then, when you have a pair, you need to do LOTS of critical listening on them, in your room you'll mix in, and get to know what they do to sound as well as you possibly can.
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#20
As has been said - go listen to stuff. I bought the Equators sight unseen but I wouldn't do that again.
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