#1
With the money I received for Christmas, I would like to purchase a guitar and learn to play. I mainly listen to Rise Against, Green Day, Black Sabbath, Bowling For Soup, etc. I live in The Netherlands and was looking at ordering from either Thomann.de or MusicStore.com. My budget would be around £250 (300 Euro).

At first I was drawn to a Squier Affinity HSS Strat pack, but I'm not sure what direction to go in.

I also like the look of these:
VGS - http://www.thomann.de/gb/vgs_vst_110_classix_gb.htm

Yamaha - http://www.musicstore.com/nl_NL/NLG/Yamaha-Pacifica-012-EW-TBS-Exotic-Wood-Version-Tobacco-SB/art-GIT0027379-000#FullDetails

Jack and Danny - http://www.musicstore.com/nl_NL/NLG/Gitaren/ST-modellen/Jack-and-Danny-805-Q-Transparent-Red-Burst-/art-GIT0006255-001

Cort - http://www.thomann.de/nl/cort_x1_bk.htm

Obviously then I'd still need an amp, bag, strap, etc.
Any recommendations?

I also found a Fender Mustang 1 V2, Fender Squier Bullet Strat HSS, Strap, Tuner, Gig Bag and Amp Cable for 254 Euro, including delivery. If I was to swap the Strat for the Yamaha 012 (+ guitar stand and plectrums), that would come to 317 Euro... The Yamaha Exotic Wood does look nicer than the White Strat though...
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#2
I think any of those sound OK - the Fender Squiers are known to be good value for the money and the HSS is pretty versatile sound wise. You might do better with used stuff as a lot of people will start with a beginner guitar and then sell if it it's not for them. However, you want to make sure your new guitar is in good condition and that might be difficult if it's used.

I personally don't recommend that beginners put down a lot of money until they know if playing the guitar is really want they want to do. You just want to avoid a really cheap guitar where the action is so bad that it hurts your fingers and you stop playing. If you have a friend that can set the action and intonation up, that will make it easier to play. If not, just play it as it came. Ask questions on UG if you get stuck on something later.

Others might have better advice on those specific models. I'm not familiar with that Yahama...
#3
Checkout the Epi LP 100. Their reviews seem better than the squier which have generally bad reviews. I wouldn't know though, I never owned one. I have the Mustang 1 V1. It is possibly the best modelling amp I've owned. If your set on one of those, the Yamaha seems to be your best bet.

I recommend an Ibanez GRG/Gio. Don't get anything with a Floyd Rose. A vintage trem or hardtail would be best. Floyd's are good but setting them up is a pain especially with cheap licensed floyd's.

I say get one of those ibanez's, or Epi LP 100. Fender Mustang 1(Clean/Classic Rock) /Peavey Vypyr 15(Hard Rock/Metal). Should run at just within your budget.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/epiphone_lp100_vsb.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/epiphone_lp_special_black.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_gsa60bs.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_grgr121exbkn.htm
#4
Thanks guys! There's a local guitar shop in town, but I'm too nervous to go in there to try out a guitar, as I know nothing about guitars or how to play, and it's much more expensive than buying online. Planning on ordering within the next few days.
#5
The LP 100s are pretty awful, a Squier is a much better choice by comparison.
However I still find it hard to look past a Yamaha Pacifica for a first guitar, likewise i find it hard to recommend anything other than a Roland Microcube for a first amp - especially if value for money is a concern

http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_pacifica_112_yns.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/roland_micro_cube_gx.htm
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Ah come on, Gunnergirl, go down to that store. It's really OK to go in and not know anything. Just learn how to finger some chord (or just play single notes if you want). I'm not suggesting you go in with a wad of cash and plan on buying anything, but window shopping can be fun. The people there will be helpful (and try to sell you stuff of course!) and other visiting guitar players can give you tips and maybe try some out for you. I'm just saying, don't pass up the opportunity to play a bunch of guitars locally and meet some musicians. It's nothing to be nervous about - half the people in a place like this are beginners and sound awkward when they try things out (and you'll wonder why some of the people are aren't on the radio because they're so good!). Good luck!

You might want to try out some mid-range priced guitars just to know what extra money would get you later. It might help you figure out what kind of guitar works best for you but within your price range.
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The LP 100s are pretty awful, a Squier is a much better choice by comparison.
However I still find it hard to look past a Yamaha Pacifica for a first guitar, likewise i find it hard to recommend anything other than a Roland Microcube for a first amp - especially if value for money is a concern

http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_pacifica_112_yns.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/roland_micro_cube_gx.htm


Agreed.

the vox mini3 is pretty nice too. Possibly more versatile than the microcube and better at the lower gain tones. the microcube probably has the edge for heavier tones, though.
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#9
Don't get an Affinity or a LP100.

I think the Pacifica and the MicroCube is a good choice, or if you can get another couple of hundred Euro the range of guitars and amps open right up.

Have you considered used guitars?
#10
Hey guys, sorry for the late response.

I did look into used guitars, but couldn't find much in my area.

At the minute, I'm waiting until the 30th (my birthday), as I should have a bit more money, and then I'm planning on going for the Yamaha Pacifica - either the 012 or 112, depends what's available.
#11
I can vouch for the Epiphone Les Paul special (the $150 guitar). I played one pretty extensively when I was first starting out and wish I still had it, to be honest. Solid guitar.

I can also vouch for Cube amps. Very solid choice there.

edit: Not sure how somebody could call the Epi LP Special a bad guitar by any means, maybe you played a really bad one... or maybe I played a really good one.
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