#1
Hey everyone,

I’ve been thinking of getting an acoustic for ages but never got round to it (I’ve played electric guitar for years). I’ve come across what I think is a good deal on a Yamaha FG700MS for ~£135 with a free accessory pack with free strings etc. (it normally goes for £170-£180 in the UK I think) and I was wondering what the consensus is about them. I know a lot of people seem to like them but I’ve also heard some people say that they think they’re a bit overrated too (or at least maybe a bit expensive for what they are because of the brand name).

My big concern is, I guess, is it good enough? As I said, I’ve played electric for years and don’t really want a beginner quality instrument that might hold me back or put me off, but at the same time I don’t really want to fork out tons of money for something that I might only play occasionally (not to mention, the more money it costs the more likely I am to just put off making a decision for another while ). Plus I’m not sure I can be bothered faffing about with dehumidifiers, which I think (please correct me if I’m wrong) you have to do with all-solid acoustics. The Yamaha I’m looking at has a solid top but laminate back and sides and from what I’ve read they’re pretty much immune to atmospheric conditions (at least compared to all-solids).

If there are any other options which would be worth considering (ideally around this price point, but higher is ok too as I’m flexible, especially if this Yamaha is basically a glorified beginners’ instrument), please feel free to suggest them. I don’t really know anything about acoustics, I think Vintage has a pretty decent reputation too at the cheaper end of the market but I’m just going by what I’ve read.

Style of music: I'm not really sure, as I said, I pretty much currently play electric exclusively, so I suppose just a decent all-rounder in terms of musical style, and I suppose if the neck etc. were comfy for an electric player, that'd be a bonus.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Dave.
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#2
the Yamaha 700 series is probably the "best bang for the buck" guitar out there in it's price range. don't be afraiid to get it. it's a great guitar that should last you until you realize that acoustic is the way to go. at that point you'll know that you've wasted tons of money on electrics as well as so many wasted years
we do recommend it a lot for beginners because it's so much better than anything else in it's class/price range but that doesn't mean that it's a beginners guitar. you'll get a few years of great playing time out of it.
at that point you'll start gassing for Taylors and Martins :0
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#3
like stepchildusmc says, it's a good guitar - i'd say the best in its price range.
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#4
stepchildusmc:

Thanks for the info. Yeah just looking at the pics it does seem to be pretty nice. I know the Vintages have a decent rep (I think) too, but they also look a bit "cheap" for want of a better word (this could well be in my imagination).

And who am I kidding, I already have GAS for better acoustics. Just I figure a decent guitar now which is cheap enough that I'm willing to take a chance on it and which I can practise with is maybe better than some mythical acoustic which I still won't have 5 years from now

patticake: Thanks for the corroboration
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#5
depending on how/what you play, it may not be a bad idea to take a quick look at the 700's brother...the fgx730sca. you'll get onboard electronics and tuner. plus the added benefit of a cutaway if you like using the higher frets. you'll be able to plug in to an amp and use some simple effects... i like a touch of reverb and chorus myself, but only on some guitars/songs.
either will suit your purposes well, it just depends on budget and what you'd like to do with it.
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#6
Thanks Budget is flexible... the problem isn't so much the money, as once the money goes up the number of possible options increase and I just end up doing my usual indecisive procrastination and will probably end up with nothing The FGX is pushing the £400-£500 mark, so it's 3 times as much... and things like all-solid Seagulls and the like aren't much more.

I'll not do anything tonight, I'll sleep on it and see tomorrow. The deal expires tomorrow night anyway, so either way I'll know what I'm doing by then
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#8
Thanks It's a bit more than the Yamaha, though the non-electric version is a similar price. Not too fussed on the Washburn headstock though- it's a shame, I've liked their electrics I've tried, and they're just about passable on them, let alone an acoustic
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#9
So, did ya pull the trigger on the talkie ?
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#10
Yeah I went for the Yamaha but it's not here yet.

That'll probably jinx it
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#11
yammie...not talkie...stupid smartphones.
glad ya got it. you'll love it. you'll have to post a HNGD when you get it, not enough new guitar days as of late. we all enjoy some good guitar porn here.
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#12
Aw I don't normally do NGDs If you're lucky you might get a pic when I get round to it (don't hold your breath, I'm no photographer )

It came today. Seems pretty nice. I broke the high E tuning it up So wasn't best pleased about that since I'm terrible at restringing. I think I got it restrung ok, it's holding for now anyway

Pretty strong smell of glue off it, too Just leave it sitting out in a well-ventilated room, I guess?

Thanks for all your help, by the way
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#13
yeah, i hear ya about NGD's. i went thru a lot of guitars in the last few years. i'm slowing down.... as soon as my taylor 324 makes it in next week, i'm done( yeah right). if posted an NGD for the last 30 or so i got in the last few years, i'd have to start my own forum. but i dont like recommending a guitar to someone that i haven't put some time on... 10 minutes at a music shop doesn't count. sucks about the E string but that's a small thing really.... it happens.
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#14
yeah same here (about the NGDs)

And yeah I'm always slightly wary of the "trying in a shop" thing too- not so much for recommending (since you can't expect people to buy everything they suggest, though obviously it's better if they own the thing or at least admit they've only tried the thing in the shop- but then you have fanboy problems too if you make owning the thing a prerequisite for giving advice ) but even for deciding if you want to buy. I know some people say you shouldn't buy a guitar you haven't tried... but as you said, trying a thing in a noisy, busy shop environment isn't exactly ideal, either. I know I've missed things before when i tried things in a shop.

Yeah the E string was minor. It was more the annoyance that I was dying to try the thing and then had to start into changing the broken string (plus my ineptitude at restringing... I think I'm gradually getting better though, youtube is awesome ).

The action is a bit higher than I'd like- I'm guessing truss rod is the thing? I'd need to check the bow of the neck but I think the truss rod is a bit loose, it came with the strings well slackened so I'm guessing maybe they loosened the TR as well. It works the same as an electric truss rod, I assume? The instructions with the guitar suggested as much.
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#15
you can try the TR. dont do more than a 1/4 each time at most though. the saddle is easily sandable down to a more enjoyable height also. just be sure to sand it evenly and in small increments. it's a tad bit harder to put the material back on the saddle than it is to take it off ! checking the height is pretty simple. i usually just lay a quarter(american..dunno the thickness of your coinage) on the frets at the 12th fret... string should be just barely above the coin without touching.
i use the "taylor method" for restringing.. it gets the strings the perfect length and they don't "pull" after tuning. 3 perfect winds around the post..... also on youtube . makes you look like a pro !
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#16
Yeah I know to go easy on the TR, don't worry

I'll try to avoid any sanding if I can help it, as you said, it's easy to do something irreversible

I'm not sure how wide pounds/pence are compared to a quarter I'm guessing a 10p might be similar but

I'll check out that taylor restringing method, thanks for the heads up (and also for the rest of the help)
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