#1
I'm in a bit of a strange position. I live in Wisconsin, where as you can guess, it's freezing outside. Tonight it's supposed to get down to about -30, and it isn't even a particularly cold day relative to the last week. However, I live in an upstairs apartment. All the heat from the other two apartments rises, so it actually ends up getting really warm up here (we have no control over the heat up here). I've had every window in the house open and still been sweating. My landlady said we can't have windows up here open anymore because it causes the heating bill to rise (we don't pay it). I'm not really sure what to do now; this apartment becomes a sauna with all the windows closed.

Other than an endless chain of fans, what can I do to cool down the apartment without pissing off my landlady?
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Go naked and then then rent your room out as a sauna. Use that money to get a new apartment.
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If the heat generated by the other appartments is enough to make your place as sweaty as a fat man's intergluteal cleft, then I'm pretty sure it's not your open windows that are causing the heating bill to rise.
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If the heat generated by the other appartments is enough to make your place as sweaty as a fat man's intergluteal cleft, then I'm pretty sure it's not your open windows that are causing the heating bill to rise.


This.
#7
By default, it's always hotter in an upstairs apartment. Whatever it takes to make the downstairs apartments reasonable will pretty much always make an upstairs apartment excessively warm without the intervention of open windows/AC.
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buy an air conditioner....
That would have the same effect on the heating bill as opening up all the windows, I believe, with the added bonus of paying to run the AC.
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By default, it's always hotter in an upstairs apartment. Whatever it takes to make the downstairs apartments reasonable will pretty much always make an upstairs apartment excessively warm without the intervention of open windows/AC.

No. If there is no heating in the upstairs appartment then it should not be getting warmer than the layer directly below it just by heat transfering upwards. The only way that can happen is if there is very poor isolation between the two floors, or if your downstairs neighbours are excessively heating their place. In this case it's probably the first, which means that if your landlady wants to lower her bill then she should get the place properly isolated.
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#10
Tell your land lady you won't do it again. Then do it anyway. She's not charging for heat. That's her fault, her problem.
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#13
Just put a fan in front of the open window(s). That's what my wife and I do in our bedroom, since it gets really warm up there during the winter.

It's also really cheap.
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Just put a fan in front of the open window(s). That's what my wife and I do in our bedroom, since it gets really warm up there during the winter.

It's also really cheap.

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I was actually referring to the lack of sexual intercourse.
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Tell your land lady you won't do it again. Then do it anyway. She's not charging for heat. That's her fault, her problem.

This was my initial reaction, but I'm not really sure who has the legal ground to tell the other to **** off. Wisconsin seems to be the only state that doesn't have statewide laws for renting, and finding legal information for cities/counties is never a fun time.

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I was actually referring to the lack of sexual intercourse.

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Just put a fan in front of the open window(s). That's what my wife and I do in our bedroom, since it gets really warm up there during the winter.
Dreadnought seems to disagree.
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By default, it's always hotter in an upstairs apartment. Whatever it takes to make the downstairs apartments reasonable will pretty much always make an upstairs apartment excessively warm without the intervention of open windows/AC.

As much as that sounds like it makes sense, as someone who's lived in a lot of top floor rooms, I can tell you it's really not true.

In any case though, if heat rises, you're not going to be getting hotter than the rooms below. They'd have to be giving more heat upwards than is actually heating the room, which I find hard to believe.
#22
I think your landlady should go downstairs and tell your neighbors to turn down the heat, they're the core of the issue not you.
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Dreadnought seems to disagree.


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It's warm because of our extreme sex, not some silly heating unit.
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#25
Have you tried talking to your land lady, or the other occupants?
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#26
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No. If there is no heating in the upstairs appartment then it should not be getting warmer than the layer directly below it just by heat transfering upwards. The only way that can happen is if there is very poor isolation between the two floors, or if your downstairs neighbours are excessively heating their place. In this case it's probably the first, which means that if your landlady wants to lower her bill then she should get the place properly isolated.

You mean insulation. And no, it's not because of poor insulation it's because people are ridiculously overheating the apartments below him. If the heating bill is too high to compensate high temperatures with an open window then I'm pretty sure someone's using too much heat.
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You mean insulation. And no, it's not because of poor insulation it's because people are ridiculously overheating the apartments below him. If the heating bill is too high to compensate high temperatures with an open window then I'm pretty sure someone's using too much heat.
To be fair, we've had a window open in every room up here, so a lot of heat was probably being lost. More importantly though, how was Sigur Ros' new album? Your avatar reminded me that I need to check it out.

Edit: Nevermind, I just remembered that that's the fox from Daisy, not the Sigur Ros album.
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#29
One way or another essentially all of the hot air they are making trying to heat their own apartments is ending up in your apartment. Its natural for heat to rise so this is inevitable to some degree, but if its that hot then there is an issue.

Apparently you don't have your own separate heating system, so start with closing every vent you can. If they don't close get new ones that do.

Then the next time you pay rent, take out how much you paid to fix it and give her the receipts with the rest of the rent. You have no responsibility to invest in her house.
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To be fair, we've had a window open in every room up here, so a lot of heat was probably being lost. More importantly though, how was Sigur Ros' new album? Your avatar reminded me that I need to check it out.

Edit: Nevermind, I just remembered that that's the fox from Daisy, not the Sigur Ros album.

It's funny because I've never heard Sigur Ros but downloaded some a few days ago and haven't listened to it haha, I'm going to now
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#31
Whatever, I'm done trying to help. I live in Wisconsin and pay for heat and freeze my ass off all the time now. So suck it up you baby.
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#32
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You mean insulation. And no, it's not because of poor insulation it's because people are ridiculously overheating the apartments below him. If the heating bill is too high to compensate high temperatures with an open window then I'm pretty sure someone's using too much heat.

which could be necessary because too much heat is getting lost due to a lack of insulation .
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#33
wait a minute, I'm not sure how the heating bill will rise if you have your window open? I mean, if you don't turn the heating on which I'm assuming you don't, do your downstairs neighbors go "oh looks like herby190 opened his windows, better crank up the ****ing heating, go pacs!" Does having your windows open magically make the downstairs apartments a fridge to where they crank the heater up? your landlady sounds like a dumbass, but then again I've never lived in a two story apartment before but I don't know if that fact matters, plus I feel like this point I'm making makes no sense cause I'm really tired haha.
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#35
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Open the windows anyway. How is she gonna know?

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#37
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which could be necessary because too much heat is getting lost due to a lack of insulation .

Yes, but if TS's flat is hotter than his downstairs neighbours', then TS's flat would lose heat to the downstairs flats. Unless the people downstairs actually feel comfortable with temperatures higher than the ones in TS's flat.
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Yes, but if TS's flat is hotter than his downstairs neighbours', then TS's flat would lose heat to the downstairs flats. Unless the people downstairs actually feel comfortable with temperatures higher than the ones in TS's flat.

The downwards heat transference would be much less than the upwards transference though, because heat primarily travels upwards. Even if his place gets hotter than their place, the transference downwards would never exceed the transference upwards if there is no additional heating in his flat.
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#39
But insulation wouldn't affect the heat transfer upwards because heat is transferred upwards because of the movement of air (natural convection). And the air doesn't travel through the floor/ceiling.
#40
Open your windows. Honestly, just **** it. Maybe the reason the bills are so high is because the people below crank the ****ing heat for no reason. They may have to be introduced to the concept of warmer clothing.