#1
Hello lads,

It is time I called upon your infinite wisdom.

I'm torn between 2 amps - the ENGL Ironball and the EVH III 50 watter.

I basically have 4 sounds I want:

Good bass response and brighter voiced cleans (can compromise here)

Slightly driven Hendrixy/SRV over drive (I don't care about authentic power tube distortion, just a close sound)

Crunchy, mid-driven dirt for punk

Tight and mid heavy 'djent' gain for tech music. So far the only amps I've seen that get the tone I want for this are the 5150 and the Ironball.

They're both around the same price range here (Ironball $1500, EVH $1300 before haggling) so really it's a matter of features and sound.

I am a bedroom player unfortunately and I don't think gigging will appear much in the future. I assume these amps will rarely be pushed above 3 but I don't think this will matter as long as I can get the tones I want at lower levels.

I will also be recording too. This is where the Ironball's powersoak comes up trumps vs EVH requiring a dummy load for recording (assuming you can't get decent tones at lower levels)

What are your opinions ?
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#2
The ironball sounds to me like a natural sounding ENGL, warmer than the others and stuff.
I've never been able to get a convincing djent tone from the ironball, though I found the other stuff more natural and dynamic sounding.
I'd say choose the EVH if you're going for higher gain stuff, or the ENGL if you'll be playing more clean-ish or crunch-ish stuff.
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#3
So you own the Ironball? How does it fail in the djent tone?

Also is it fizzy at lower levels? The EVHIII has quite a good master volume but I've got no chance to play the Ironball in my state (there's no ENGL dealer here)
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#4
i cant comment on the ironball, but i would definitely own the EVH 50 watter. i really like that amp.

...so probably doesnt help in your decision. just thought i would say.
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#5
I own the Ironball, and I play mostly Thrash, Black, Death Metal on it. It has great cleans and is able to do blues also. There's a lot of gain on this amp, also the gain boost is a nice addition. You don't even need a boost pedal unless you want to use your favorite one or something. Couldn't be more happier with the purchase.

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No, it sounds awesome at low levels and loud levels...
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#6
I'd go EVH for versatility and headroom
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#7
Apparently the Ironball sounds like a Fireball, if that's the case I'd jump on it. Bought my Engl a few months ago, could NOT be happier with it, the clean channel is better than the 5150's in my opinion too.
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#8
^ I kinda didn't get the same impression.
The ironball sounded warmer and juicier, to me at least.
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So you own the Ironball? How does it fail in the djent tone?

Also is it fizzy at lower levels? The EVHIII has quite a good master volume but I've got no chance to play the Ironball in my state (there's no ENGL dealer here)
Nope, I've tried it for something like 20 minutes in a shop with a peavey 4x12, and it sounded pretty ****in' good ya know.
It sounded like a clean/mid-gain amp should sound.
Yeah, pretty ****in' good.

It can do high gain stuff indeed, but it's good for natural sounding stuff.
My idea of a djent sound is a mid-massive and high-heavy tight sound, and I wasn't able to get that with the ironball.
To me, the EQ was the main issue, with the mids raised that weren't the right frequency, and the important bass stuff were cut before giving the tight feeling.

I'd say get the ironball unless you prefer a bit less of a natural sound in favor of a tiny bit of versatility.
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