#1
Hey Guys.

Alright, I still can't decide on an amp. Could y'all help me?

My first choices:


Port City Brit 50
Orange Rockerverb
Soldano SLO100
Engl Savage
Kemper


I'm open to other suggestions. I need to cover

Jazz
Reggae
(Clean) Blues
(Dirty) Blues
Overdriven 60's
Queen - Zeppelin 70's
80's Rock and Metal
90's Grunge
Alternative
Punk
Prog Metal
Death Metal
Djent

and stuff. I need an amp that won't hide me too much, but I need versatility first. Tone second, honesty third. Thanks! I'd be happy to answer any more questions if it helps.
#2
If you need to cover that wide of a tonal spectrum, a modeling amp is about your only choice. Axe FX II, Kemper, etc
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#3
I wouldn't recommend anything on your list for that range of genres offhand, except the Kemper.

Real versatility is hard to come by.

Look at the Mesa Road King.

Look at the EVH 5150 III 100W (though I'm not sure I would recommend it compared to the RK).

I think you'll be happy with a Kemper though.
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Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#5
I'll give the 5150 an honest chance. It's gotten great reviews.

You know, I tried the Mark V. I really want to like it, but I just wasn't getting quite what I wanted out of it. I've tried a couple, and I'll keep trying them, but I just wasn't getting what I wanted out of them. I'm sorry I can't explain it... but it just didn't feel right.
#6
I would honestly buy a couple different amps. One that does the lighter stuff really well, and one that does the heavy stuff really well.
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#9
Use the edit button please, double and triple posting is frowned upon

Kinda what I was thinking, maybe like a 6505 and a Vox or something.
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#10
If you went seperate amps, you would need at least three.

Like... Fender Twin, vertical Marshall 2203, and a Peavey 6505, or even still the EVH 5150 III.

If money isn't an issue, I would throw in a Mesa Dual Rectifier (2ch), maybe a Marshall SL-X (they're dirt cheap anyway), and maybe a Vox AC30 (I don't see anything on the list that particularly calls for a Vox, but eh).
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
Last edited by Offworld92 at Jan 14, 2014,
#11
I was never a huge fan of the 6505. Though I didn't try it for long.

As far as Marshall goes, I would have to mod a JCM800 a lot to get it bearable for my ears.... Maybe

Fender Super Reverb or Vibroverb/king or Deluxe or Twin or Princeton :P

Marshall 1959 or Port City Brit 50 or Soldano or Orange

Engl Savage or Soldano or Orange or MAYBE 5150
Last edited by gibson52198 at Jan 14, 2014,
#12
Quote by gibson52198
I was never a huge fan of the 6505. Though I didn't try it for long.


Alright, better idea then, something I should have asked in the first place:

What bands specifically have tones you'd like to get close to?

Don't be afraid to make an exhaustive list. We're not going anywhere.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#13
He could cover the jazz, clean blues, and harder styles with a JSX, one of the best clean channels I've heard on a high gainer. A couple of the Framus amps have incredible cleans apparently, and the Soldano Lucky 13 or Decatone would cover a lot of ground as well.
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Last edited by Flux'D at Jan 14, 2014,
#14
^ Good thought that made me think, throw the VHT / Fryette Sig:X in there to check out. My mind fails me sometimes.

I wouldn't really recommend the JSX, simply due to the budget range we're looking at. In my opinion, the Sig:X basically is like a JSX, but better in every way.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#15
Well, I was thinking of a slightly lower price bracket so he could pick up another upper midrange amp. I dunno much of anything about Fryette or VHT

EDIT: Wow, JSX's have really come down in price... I sold mine for $750 two years ago
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Last edited by Flux'D at Jan 14, 2014,
#16
TS, what is your budget?

I'm imagining we're talking like $2500. Or else it's just a non-issue in TS's situation.

A used Sig:X is only gonna set you back like $1300 or so (pulled that out of my ass, sounds right).

Hooray for brainstorming.


EDIT: Only one Sold Sig:X on eBay, went for $1200. So yeah, ish.

Yeah, I sold my JSX for like... $450 I think. Eesh.

I'm gonna take a huge loss on my Vypyr Tube too. I bought it like 2-3 years ago, at least, for $350, people want them for like $200-250 now.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
Last edited by Offworld92 at Jan 14, 2014,
#17
Alright, bands and aritsts.

George Benson
Joe Pass
Wes Montgomery
John McLaughlin
Al DiMeola
Frank Gambale
Kurt Rosenwinkel
Larry Carlton
BB King
Freddie King
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Sonny Landreth
GUTHRIE GOVAN
"Big" Al Anderson
Joe Bonamassa
Eric Johnson
Warren Haynes
Eric Clapton
Derek Trucks
Adrian Belew
Robert Fripp
Hendrix
Brian May
Alex Lifeson (through the ages)
Allan Holdsworth
Jimmy Page
Cream and Bluesbreakers
Guns N' Roses
Van Halen
The Beatles
Soundgarden
Alice in Chains
Nirvana
Misfits
Dead Kennedys
Halestorm
Albert Lee
Vince Gill
I like replicating pedal steel players like Robert Randolph
A lot of Dubstep
Feared
Periphery
Animals as Leaders
Dillinger Escape Plan
Megadeth
Slayer
Keith Merrow
Behemoth
Mayhem
Paul Kossoff
Meshuggah


I could keep going but I think you're starting to get the idea :P
#18
A lot of Egnater's stuff is known for versatility. Maybe a tourmaster or renegade? I have a renegade and it easily covers most of what you listed. Maybe not so much prog metal, death metal, or djent though. I'm sure you could get there with some kind of boost/overdrive/distortion in front of it though. They're also not super expensive so you could get a different amp for the really heavy stuff.
#20
Mulling over your list, I still stand by my list pretty much.

Fender Twin, Vox AC30, Marshall JTM45 (might want to find a master volume clone, just because), Marshall JCM800 (vertical), Mesa Dual Rectifier (2 Channel). On top of that get an old Line 6 POD X3 for Meshuggah & Periphery sounds (the Dual Rec might do it, but not sure).

Or just get a Kemper. Randall RM100 isn't a bad suggestion either, check one out.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#21
Is the Twin necessary? Why not a Super or Deluxe so he can get some breakup without his ears bleeding? Also your budget would make this way easier.
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#22
Buy an RM100 and whichever modules you need. That's about the only way I can think of getting that wide a range of tones. You can get Fender, Marshall, Soldano, Mesa, Bogner and all manner of different preamp modules and just swap them over depending what you are playing at the time.
The RM100 was designed with people like you in mind.
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#23
oh snap son. you got some good ones there.

quite frankly, in todays world a kemper is just too damn tempting. kemper has my bet. and a DARN nice cab.
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#24
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
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Marshall 18W clone
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#25
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#26
Well, as much as the Randall's are nice, I played one at a show after Cath recommended me one last time. My issue is in feel, and it's ability to cut through a mix. I was drowned out in a mix with my band live and it wasn't pretty. It was a friends RM100 with a couple mesa modules and a Marshall kinda module and it just didn't feel right.

It was only one gig, but I really feel as though I need to go a little further with this. Maybe multiple amps is the way to go.

I've never tried a Kemper. I like tube amps, but I've been surprised before.

Hey, side note, as far as Dumble clones go, would you guys recommend a Fuchs or a Bludotone, or even something else? I just started looking at those.

I refuse to spend more than $3000 on an amp normally but if it's something like a Dumble replica that's up to $4000 I could consider it.

So I suppose $4000. I should mention I'd be getting these one at a time with large gaps between.


What about:

Fender Super or Port City Pearl
Bludotone Bludo-Drive or Fuchs ODS
PRS Super Dallas
Port City Brit 50
Soldano SLO100
Engl Savage

Possible Victoria Tweed amp


...so much money...
Last edited by gibson52198 at Jan 15, 2014,
#27
Seems like Ceriatone makes some Dumble clones. Never played one, but I've heard nothing but praise for their Marshalls.
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Gibson Les Paul Traditional
Cort Explorer
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Squire Tele
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Traynor YCV 50 Blue
Peavey Vypyr 75

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#28
Are you really looking for guitartones though?

You want to play/sound like Guthrie Govan, but also as Mclaughlin who hardly plays electric..

You named almost every popular guitarplayer, and tone in existance.

I doubt you could even dial in all those tones, and even if u could, a lot of those tones require a synergy with particular technique, phrasing and/or playing style.

Not even started on fx pedals.

Modeling amp (+Multi FX) seems best for multiple aspects.

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