#1
Hello There. I play in a trio blues band. I use a fender strat, and a les paul copy, with just an Overdrive pedal. I have a peavey studio I've been using for gigs with an extension for bigger shows. I'm tired of solid state sound and am looking to upgrade to tube. I know tube is about 5-7w louder then solid state, but I pretty much want a good recommendation for playing live. I have a limited budget, and I have no preferences. I've been considering a bugera V22, but would that really be enough to gig with? Note: I have a tube pre-amp I would run with my peavey. Would it really boost much if I run it with a tube amp? Or does it just help the tone? Thank you for any and all tips, suggestions, and opinions.
#2
Are you being mic'ed at your gigs? In that case, just go with what sounds the best because you can gig with a 1 watt amp if you're getting mic'ed up and have monitors. Unmic'ed, keeping up with a full band it still depends, because it depends on if you what a truly clean sounding clean tone. I'd recommend at least 30 watts if you want a clean channel, if you're only using overdriven sounds than you can get away with 15-20.
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#3
I don't like to have guitar coming through the wedges which means I need enough to get over the drummer unaided (plus I use a lot of feedback) so I won't use anything under about 30 or 50W. I don't like to rely on foldback to hear myself. You can get away with a 20w tube amp in that situation if you don't need pristine cleans - unless your drummer is a spider monkey.
That's what determines what you need in the way of unaided power - how loud your drummer is. He's the person that sets the on stage volume.
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#4
Basically, wattage is related to volume, but it's more more related to headroom if that makes sense (although that's kinda getting into a tomato/tomato situation). A 30 watt amp won't be twice as loud as a 15 watt amp, but it will have more clean headroom available (meaning the volume level that you can hit and still have a clean signal).
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#5
pretty much what these guys are saying

make your wattage decision more based on the amp tone you like, the size of the gigs you do, and the the PA situation at the places you play.




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The Bugera V22 is a pretty nice piece of kit as is the Blues Jr. Both like speaker changes.
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#6
Size of the gig doesn't really matter a jot. Big or small, you have to match the drummer. In fact in the smaller venues you often have to play louder to get over the drummer. A drummer in a confined space is deafening - but you still have to get over him.
My drummer has different kits for different venues but that's pretty rare.
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#8
Listen to what the others have said regarding wattage.

On a related note, I played a V22 the other day. It was decent, but find a used Peavey Classic 30 or Blues Jr if you can. Much clearer, more natural sound. Something about the Bugera seemed a bit sterile.
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#9
The Classic 30 is a great little amp. I'd gig with it.
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#10
I sometimes gig with a 20watt head and I have no problems at all.
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#11
I gig with 50W, but I could easily get away with 15-20 most places I play. I know a few good sound guys and that's a bonus for bigger/louder venues. As for an amp, for blues stuff I'd look at the blues junior, peavey classic 30, or the jet city jca22h. Speakers wise I'd be looking at Eminence Cannabis Rex, or The Wizard
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#12
i have gigged the 18w (1978X) that i built. sounds great. very dynamic and responsive amp.

classic 30's are nice amps.

if you want cleans at least 30. but the cleans may have dirt. all amps are a little different.
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#13
Thanks for clarifying. For the record, I play with a clean channel that's about to break up, to get that nice overworked tone, and then use the OD to push it over for solos and such. And my drummer, well he has a volume control, he just like to play at 11...lol. Also, I'd say about 45% of the time, we are un-mic'ed