#1


is gretsch white falcon worthing buy to play the ramones, the clash, sex pistols?
these seventies punk rock. especially the ramones! i know johnny ramone's tone is very fuzz, and also know white falcon has howling if too much distortion/overdrive, but does it still work for the ramones?
thank you for your answer!
Last edited by johnpaulgeorger at Feb 2, 2014,
#2
Not quite the same genre, but if Billy Duffy can play one for The Cult and kick ass, I don't see why you couldn't play one for punk.
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#3
the sex pistols used cranked fender amps, im sure you'd be fine. Lots of money for a punk guitar though
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
Not quite the same genre, but if Billy Duffy can play one for The Cult and kick ass, I don't see why you couldn't play one for punk.

This. Best guitarist ever.

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#5
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TS - you can play any genre on any guitar.

I agree.
It's a matter of trying the guitar for yourself to hear if the tones that you get out of it suit your taste to use on the particular music genre(s) you want to use it for.

What i mean is that while you can use any guitar to play any genre, you'll probably feel that some guitars' tones don't fit very well with some genres. But that's personal preference and not a rule, so it's best to try it for yourself.
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#6
Quote by GaryBillington
This. Best guitarist ever.

TS - you can play any genre on any guitar.

I wouldn't say best ever, but he is amazing and highly underrated. But yes, I can imagine a White Falcon would work very well for punk.
#7
Quote by WholeLottaIzzy
I wouldn't say best ever, but he is amazing and highly underrated. But yes, I can imagine a White Falcon would work very well for punk.

It's no more of a biased opinion than people saying anyone else who happens to be their favourite is the best ever

I gotta ask though TS: Are you seriously asking for advice on a £3k guitar? If you're considering spending that sort of money, you should really know what you're looking for and be able to get round as many shops as possible to try everything you can to really pinpoint your ultimate guitar.

Surely if you really wanted to know the answer to this question, you'd spend some time finding out for yourself?
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#8
The whole point of punk is that it really doesn't matter what you play as long as you kick ass and sing about stuff that's important to you and cut out the bullshit.

Spending that much on a guitar might negate the punk spirit somewhat though.
#9
Jim Heath from Reverend Horton Heat uses a Gretch and some of their stuff is quite punky.
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#10
Quote by Mephaphil
The whole point of punk is that it really doesn't matter what you play as long as you kick ass and sing about stuff that's important to you and cut out the bullshit.

Spending that much on a guitar might negate the punk spirit somewhat though.

Nah I used a PRS to play punk for years. Good punk bands actually care about their gear and sound, and don't give me the Sex Pistols used what ever, because they suck.
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#11
Quote by Robbgnarly
Nah I used a PRS to play punk for years. Good punk bands actually care about their gear and sound, and don't give me the Sex Pistols used what ever, because they suck.


sending a big luggie your way for sex pistols. back in the day using whatever was the plan for punk. now it's a "style" with recommended gear like any other genre.

for the bands mentioned I'd think there'd be better options than that particular gretsch . I'd go with something like a silver jet myself.
#12
Quote by monwobobbo
sending a big luggie your way for sex pistols. back in the day using whatever was the plan for punk. now it's a "style" with recommended gear like any other genre.

for the bands mentioned I'd think there'd be better options than that particular gretsch . I'd go with something like a silver jet myself.

Yeah I love punk, but most of the early stuff is horrid. I don't even like early Bad Religion, and Black flag and the Misfits were really horrid

It was bands like NOFX, Operation Ivy and Pennywise that showed people punk didn't have to sound like shite to be a punk band

I'd rather listen to Poison than The Dead Kennedy's and 80% of the music I listen to is punk
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Quote by Robbgnarly
Yeah I love punk, but most of the early stuff is horrid. I don't even like early Bad Religion, and Black flag and the Misfits were really horrid

It was bands like NOFX, Operation Ivy and Pennywise that showed people punk didn't have to sound like shite to be a punk band

I'd rather listen to Poison than The Dead Kennedy's and 80% of the music I listen to is punk


sorry your punk as **** cred is dropping by the minute. I like all the bands you mentioned. add in The Dead Boys and the Germs as well as a host of other late 70s - early 80s punk bands. my brother wrote a book on punk rock compilation albums. more of a hard rock / metal guy myself.
#14
Quote by monwobobbo
sorry your punk as **** cred is dropping by the minute. I like all the bands you mentioned. add in The Dead Boys and the Germs as well as a host of other late 70s - early 80s punk bands. my brother wrote a book on punk rock compilation albums. more of a hard rock / metal guy myself.

I don't need "punk cred", but I do know what I do and don't like in music and most early punk is not on my list

The lead singer of my Punk/hardcore band loves early punk, I like the messages they had, but not fond of the delivery.
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#15
Quote by Robbgnarly
Nah I used a PRS to play punk for years. Good punk bands actually care about their gear and sound, and don't give me the Sex Pistols used what ever, because they suck.


Sure, use whatever you want, that's the whole point. But the DIY ethos of punk doesn't include spending thousands on instruments. Do it if you want, but it's more about using whatever you can to make music. You don't need PRS/Suhr to make great punk rock.

The punk I know of the Clash, the Ramones, the Dead Kennedy's, the Slits is possibly not the punk that you're talking about.

The Pistols didn't suck, HipsterGnarly.
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Quote by Mephaphil
Sure, use whatever you want, that's the whole point. But the DIY ethos of punk doesn't include spending thousands on instruments. Do it if you want, but it's more about using whatever you can to make music. You don't need PRS/Suhr to make great punk rock.

The punk I know of the Clash, the Ramones, the Dead Kennedy's, the Slits is possibly not the punk that you're talking about.

The Pistols didn't suck, HipsterGnarly.

So now I'm a hipster

I didn't mean you have to buy high end gear, I meant that most punk these days (post '88ish) actually do want a good sound and they care about musicianship. There were some older bands that were like this, but the majority were not.
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#17
Quote by BlueIceBox
Jim Heath from Reverend Horton Heat uses a Gretch and some of their stuff is quite punky.

Good point!
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#18
Quote by Robbgnarly
So now I'm a hipster

I didn't mean you have to buy high end gear, I meant that most punk these days (post '88ish) actually do want a good sound and they care about musicianship. There were some older bands that were like this, but the majority were not.

we're just busting your balls. even many of the old bands cared way more than they let on.