#1
Hello everyone! I'm trying to decide between a SH 5 and SH 14 for epi-SG 400. I play Hard rock, Stoner rock, Grunge mainly, even Classic rock, Punk... Which pickup would do better? If you have other suggestions feel free to tell me


Also, I know i need a new amp, I'll buy one soon!
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#2
For stoner rock maybe get a Dimarzio Super Distortion, or a Lace Drop n Gain if you can squeeze out a few more bucks.
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#3
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Hello everyone! I'm trying to decide between a SH 5 and SH 14 for epi-SG 400. I play Hard rock, Stoner rock, Grunge mainly, even Classic rock, Punk... Which pickup would do better? If you have other suggestions feel free to tell me


Also, I know i need a new amp, I'll buy one soon!



could you pick up a few tones you really would like to have? specific recordings?
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#4
The SH-14 should be fatter. They're pretty similar though. Same exact pickup with different magnets. If you want to experiment, get any one of them. Putting a Ceramic magnet in a Custom makes it a Custom, an AlNiCo V magnet makes it a Custom 5, an AlNiCo II magnet makes it a Custom Custom, and you can also put in an AlNiCo VIII magnet in it, which makes the very popular but not officially sold Custom VIII.
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#5
i had an epiphone g-310 and was playing the same kind of music you listed. I put a Gibson dirty fingers in the bridge and it was incredible. I later removed the dirty fingers to put into a "better" guitar and replaced the bridge in teh SG with an SH-5. The SH-5 didn't compare IMO. My amp was a Marshall DSL 50 for reference.

I'd definitely recommend atleast looking into the Gibson Dirty Fingers before you buy one of the others.
#7
Quote by Offworld92
The SH-14 should be fatter.


Will it? I haven't tried them head to head (and it's ages since I've tried the normal custom), but the custom 5 is actually pretty scooped. That's one thing I'm not so fussed with- while too many pickups are honky to a fault, and initially I found the more transparent tone of the custom 5 refreshing, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that it's too far to the other extreme
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#8
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Examples of tones I like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CggSqpdi1s#t=30s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG6F1m1Gi4k#t=1s (the rythm guitar on the first track)


I'd be looking at something more like the Seymour Duncan JB.

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Will it? I haven't tried them head to head (and it's ages since I've tried the normal custom), but the custom 5 is actually pretty scooped. That's one thing I'm not so fussed with- while too many pickups are honky to a fault, and initially I found the more transparent tone of the custom 5 refreshing, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that it's too far to the other extreme


I dunno. Maybe fatter in the bass then? Flubbier, yeah?
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#9
as i said, it's ages since i've tried it but yeah i'd expect the alnico V one to be not as tight. but maybe more scooped in the mids, too. it's not super tight on the bass, at least, sounds more "organic", for want of a better word, than ceramic normally does.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#10
I use a SH-4 in my G-400 and it covers everything you want to do.
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#11
To be more specific, I prefer Bass/Mid than Treble. I don't want my guitar to sound screechy.
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#12
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To be more specific, I prefer Bass/Mid than Treble. I don't want my guitar to sound screechy.

that is the sh-4
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#13
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that is the sh-4


Hey thanks! Just one more question, will it get too muddy if I play in Standard C? For when I play stoner
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EHX Small Stone
Laney 15W extreme
#14
Quote by IronFox
Hey thanks! Just one more question, will it get too muddy if I play in Standard C? For when I play stoner

Yeah it should. The SH-4 is very midrange in its EQ. I play a lot of grunge/stoner and other styles with mine and it handles it just fine. I tune to Drop C sometimes if that helps
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#15
I have an SH5 in my Godin and it does high gain tones very well. It'd say it's pretty balanced in mids and bass but it is a little harsh unless you roll down the tone knob a little.
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#16
+1^
Its great for downtuned stuff, much better than the JB. The JB to me sounds harsh on its own but in a band mix it sits perfectly well. Its got a spike in the high mids making it an excellent pickup for solos. It can also be too bright in some guitars, so 250k pots are recommended with it. A JB with an A2 mag is great for downtuned rhythm work.

The SH14 lacks midrange but its bass isn't flubby & its got a lot of bite(presence).
The SH11 doesnt have a lot of bass but its got full mids in both low & high frequencies while the highs(treble) are rounded. Its a very warm sounding pickup unlike the other custom variants.